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Discussion dans 'Immigration UK' démarrée par drew82, 17 Mars 2010.

  1. drew82

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    Hi there,

    i'm new to this and quite confused so please go easy on me (you may have to spell it out lol).

    I had a search but couldnt really find anything that related to my situation.

    As mentioned im a uk citizen and my girlfriend is a nz citizen

    we have been going out for the past 2 years (not living together) during her 'working holiday visa'. Since this has run out she has had to return to new zealand.

    As she doesnt want to study, and wants to spend more time with me in the uk the only thing we can think of is to get marrried.

    Searching the government & visa websites i really can't understand what is involved and what we need to do.
    I thought the best thing was for her to come over here and get married. I read she would need a 'entry clearance' but that is all that i could understand and not sure what else is required and at what cost.

    As i'm due to go over to new zealand for a 2 week holiday i was thinking it might be easier to get married over there, and then both come back, but again i'm not so sure what is involved.

    Has anyone else been in this situation? Any info on either options (or any other way) would be hugely appreciated.

    Thank you for your time.

    Drew
     
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    In the first scenario, she should apply for a fiance visa which is actually meant for people who want to come over to UK to get married. ( She doesn't need any visa to visit UK and she can just come over to get married but I would suggest not to go that way because it will create problems later down the road ).

    In the second case, once you are married in UK, she could apply for spouse visa to come with you or join you in the UK.

    Good luck
     
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    Hi yousafzai,

    thanks for the message, that makes sense

    i just searched for that visa and it stated it costs £585! Holy cow thats extreme! How can they justify that kind of money!? No wonder people do things differently to the law.

    Sorry, thats not your problem.

    Thanks again!
     
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    Hi,

    just read your post. You may want to think about getting married in denmark. It's really easy, fast and cheap. Any questions send me a pm.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. I dont think getting married in denmark would be an option to be honest, would cause more problems logistically i think.

    My girlfriend is coming over in august, and was initially coming over on a holiday visa. But now we are thinking of getting married (so she can live here) so we are looking into the entry clearence visa & fiance visa option.

    Is this the correct way of doing it?

    Does anyone know what is required (documents etc?), as when i search on google i never see a definitive answer?

    Thanks
     
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    I am not familiar with marriage procedures in the uk but i know that getting married in germany would have been a big fat hassle for my (now) wife and myself. She would have had to apply for a special "getting married" visa, which would have allowed her to enter the country for the purpose of getting married. Then, after the marriage, she would have had to go back to chile in order to apply for a "familiy reunification visa". Plus germany requires a ridiculous amount of paperwork. So much red tape it just wasn't worth it.

    Getting married in denmark, on the other hand, was simple, fast and cheap. She entered germany on a 3 month tourist visa and we got married in kopenhagen within less than two months. The procedure is as follows: first you make an appointment in the town hall to present yourselves with your passports and sign a few forms. They'll then give you an appointment for the actual marriage ceremony. The only downside is that you have to go to kopenhagen twice. But i think it's still cheaper than elsewhere because they only charge the equivalent of around 70 gbp for the entire procedure. As far as i know there are other towns in denmark where you can get married within a couple of days, but i don't know much about that.
    Once you are married she can apply for an eea family permit (free of charge), which allows her to live and work in the uk with you.

    Like i said i'm not familiar with the system in the uk but i am inclined to think that it is similar to the one in germany. Plenty of red tape and ludicrously expensive.
     
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    Hi Ametisto,

    Thanks for the indepth reply, it does sound like Germany has similar rules to the UK.

    If it's as easy as you make it out to be then it would of been a good option, but as she is only coming over for a month, we neither have the time or the money to take out such a task.

    The Visa's in the UK require documentation that proves we have lived together for 2 years (bills, both names on bank statements), but as we have only been going out for just over 2 years we don't have such items.

    Who would move in with someone and open shared bank account after just meeting someone!?!? (She only had a 2 year working visa as well)

    Man this is really starting to do my head in!
     
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    Sure no problem, Drew. We've been through that and I'm more than happy to help.

    Ok, the fact that she'll only be here for a month does change things a bit. Does she really have to go back to NZ? Because it would save you heaps of money if not. Like I said before, there are a few town in Denmark where you can get married within a month; if you are still considering getting married. I know it's ridiculous that they "make you get married" but it just greatly facilitates the whole thing.

    Unfortunately I can't help you with the procedure for unmarried couples. Since we hadn't lived together we never really looked into that. The best (if not cheapest) way for you would certainly be to get married in the UK. That would save her a great deal of trouble in the long run. If you decide not to get married your GF has to be prepared for a long and constant struggle; simple things such as opening a bank account or registering with a GP will become extremely complicated because she'll constantly need to prove that she is in the UK legally. I'm not meaning to discourage you, all I'm saying is that the problems are only beginning;) It's rather a massive hassle than an insurmountable problem, but it's certainly a major annoyance.
     
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