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✎ EN EEA Residence+joint petition to European Parliament

Temat na forum 'Immigration UK' rozpoczęty przez Plum70, Czerwiec 13, 2008.

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Where is your country of origin and do they issue National ID cards?

Poll closed Październik 11, 2008.
  1. Yes. and it ias accepted outside my country

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  2. Yes, but it is not recognised outside of my country

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  3. No

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  1. Plum70

    Plum70 Well-Known Member

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    Hello All,

    For those of us who have been caught in the non compliant practices of the HO wrt the issuance of EEA residence cards within the 6 month limit (as set out in community law), this is your time to speak out for a change!

    I am leading a forum regarding this matter and will be lodging a joint petition with the European Parliament, and I would like you all (as well as anyone else you know affected by this issue) to join this movement.

    Please follow this link to catch up on the details: http://www.ukresident.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70485 (Please post your comments or suggestions there or here).

    I will let you know when the final draft of the petition is ready to be signed.

    Can you also kindly take part in this poll (and specify your country of origin) as I need to collate factual information for the petition. This is to strenghten the argument that it is unacceptable for the HO to hold our passports for 6+ months leaving us vulnerable with no form of ID for identification and security purposes.

    Many thanks and we hope for +ve change!

    Cheers
     
  2. 86ti

    86ti Active Member

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    Would you please explain how national IDs are relevant to this case?
     
  3. Plum70

    Plum70 Well-Known Member

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    It is relevant to non EEA Family members who have handed in their passports to support their residence card applications and have no other proof of identification (where their country of residence does NOT issue ID cards). As you know this frustrates any efforts to prove one's identity.

    Therefore it is imperative that the HO:

    1. Returns passports (with temporay work permits where necessary) while applications are being processed instead of keeping them for 6+ months OR
    2. Accepts certified photocopies of passports in the interim and then requests originals when application is ready to be processed.

    I want to use this poll to further drive home the point that the HO's non compliance to the 6 month timeline/application of the EU Regulations severly affects our abilities to travel, find work, apply for public services (E.G NI number, NHS) without valid proof of ID.

    Make sense?
     
  4. 86ti

    86ti Active Member

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    Not really, because even if countries issue national IDs this doesn't mean that citizens are required to have both or hold both in their possession. It is certainly not reasonable to argue that someone should apply for a national ID in case their passport is somewhere else. I don't think that would be possible through my embassy anyway, only in my country of origin. Austria does have national IDs but I don't know anyone who has one. People prefer to have passports.
     
  5. sebhoff

    sebhoff Addicted member

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    Yes - I think it does. Although you are likely to get lots of variation in the answers...
    I am a German citizen, but until very recently, it was not possible for me to have an ID because they were only available to residents of Germany. Since I grew up (and lived) in Switzerland, my only means of identification when I moved to the UK was my passport. In the meantime, the law has changed and I now have an ID. The main reason for getting it was precisely this point: to be able to travel while my passport is with whatever British authority feels like keeping my passport - e.g. NVLA, or whatever.
    I strongly support this petition. In the meantime, we have received our residence card, but I'd of course be very happy to sign it anyway.
    Sebastian
     
  6. Plum70

    Plum70 Well-Known Member

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    Firstly 86ti, the IDs are in reference to non EEA family members only. Most 3rd country nationals do not have any other form of ID except their passports. This poll is meant to only drive home this point and highlight how vital it is that we are in possession of our passports for identification and free movement purposes.

    Secondly I do believe that some EEA Nationals are able to obtain ID cards from their embassies where they reside. For instance my husband who is Swiss contacted his embassy today to renew his ID card for a trip next month (because his passport is stuck with the HO).
     
  7. Plum70

    Plum70 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your positive feedback and backing Sebastian. Yes I also think this is a cogent issue. This is especially true for 3rd country nationals whose countries do not use/issue ID cards and have to depend solely on their passports as means of identification, exercising their free rights of movement and access to public services.

    At the moment an initial draft of the petition is being worked on. Once it is finished it will be posted on the UK Resident forum http://www.ukresident.com/forums/index. ... opic=70485 for feedback/comments before a final draft is pronounced and joint signing commences. Please keep abreast of this issue in the above forum. Alternatively I can post some info here if you'd prefer.

    Cheers and thanks for your support once again
     
  8. hughunter

    hughunter Member

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    nice job.you get my encouragement!!!!!! :)
     
  9. Plum70

    Plum70 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Hughunter. Do I get your support as well? :)
     
  10. hughunter

    hughunter Member

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    support as well..for sure!!!
     
  11. Plum70

    Plum70 Well-Known Member

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    Great. Thanks!
     
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