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  1. kimbap

    kimbap Member

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    i am an american in england with my fiance, a native born british citizen.
    turns out i am pregnant and we need to get a fiance visa as soon as possible so i can join NHS.
    would it be best to fly to the USA and apply for it there? and would both of us need to go? how long does it take at the NYC british embassy? and we have only known each other one year and have just begun living together. we have extensive documentation of travel together and to see each other over this year and we are not young, both in late 30s. whats likely to be the quickest way to apply successfully. we both have sufficient financial resources and housing so that won't be a problem. thank you!!!!
     
  2. sebaka

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    In a very similar situation.

    The most I've managed to glean is that the turn around in the NYC consulate can be about 3 weeks (found this unexpectedly quick???).

    Our real concern is - will she (she's US Cit) be entitled to NHS treatment at all???? - due to being pregnant this will obviously be the deciding factor.

    Will let you know if we get any more info - obliged if you could do likewise

    Good luck
     
  3. kimbap

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    yes, you are able to use the NHS with a fiancee visa. I've found that information through the NHS website.
    I thought it was five business days from receipt of the application to finish it. I filled out the online application and I am going to call the UK embassy in NYC today to ask about the time frame. I will let you know how it turns out.
     
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    Indeed. From what I have heard, this is handled inconsistent from GP to GP, hospital to hospital, and trust to trust. I had no problem signing up, but others did.

    The rule for registering is: if you intend to stay for more than 6 months, you can register. So a tourist visa is not sufficient, because it is limited to 6 months. A fiance visa should be ok: while it is valid for 6 months only, it is meant to lead to settlement.

    For expensive operations (and a birth may be considered as such), you need to be resident for a year or have ILR. You will only be given ILR after the marriage, so this could be a problem.

    Although you could also argue that the birth is really for benefit of the unborn child, which is going to be a British citizen. You may want to ask the hospital how they are handling these cases.
     
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    Kimbap - could you direct me to this info on the NHS site pls.

    The inconsistency is very apparent from the ambiguous info on different sites.

    Going to see my GP tmrw to see what they say.

    It's intetersting to see what ECHR has to say on the matter:

    ARTICLE 12

    Men and women of marriageable age have the right to marry and to found a family, according to the national laws governing the exercise of this right.

    Denying medical care would surely contravene this right????
     
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    I am currently applying for a spousal visa to the UK. I am American and my husband is British. We have a two year old and I'm currently pregnant. My application arrived at the NYC consulate on the 7th of January and so far I haven't heard anything. Don't waste your time calling them, they won't respond to you. My husband left a message with them, and the only reason they called back was because his passport was part of the application and he needed it to go home. We had planned to come here together and go back to England together, but since the application is taking so long, not the 5 days quoted on their site, he had to go back and in fact missed his first flight back to London. Although, once they called him back, so that he could explain why he needed his passport, it took the consulate only 30 minutes to have his passport in the mail and we had a tracking number emailed to us.
    I don't know anything about NHS service there, so what you guys have said is helpful. I'll let you know how my application goes.
     
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    Please do. When I called the revenue generating helpline at $3 a min or $12 from the UK, they stated about 3 weeks to me.
     
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    Registering with the GP should not be a problem on the spousal visa, but the hospital(s) may still refuse to do the treatment for free. So better ask there, and choose a hospital were the administration is happy with the situation.

    Generally yes, but in the end it is only about the money. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
     
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    Registered today with the GP. They were very helpful and spoke with confidence as they have had this case before. Their take on it is that as long as the person intends to stay in the UK permanently, then they are entitled to NHS. The practice manager stated that there would be a straight referral to the maternity ward at the local hospital.

    I will heed your warning however and re check tommorow

    As for a free lunch - that it ain't - I've paid a fortune in National Insurance for 20 years and have never used a penny. I think that my child may be entitled to a share of it.

    Thanks for your help so far
     
  10. kimbap

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    Hi everyone, here is the link to the NHS page that says that you only need a fiancee visa for NHS service-- i.e.

    "A person who has been given leave to enter the UK by the Home Office to marry or become the civil partner of someone who is ordinarily resident here may be regarded as taking up permanent residence, and therefore exempt from charges for NHS hospital treatment."



    here is the link:
    http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Policyandguidan ... /DH_074377

    after hearing about the long delay in nyc at the consulate i am going to use an expediter. they charge $100 and they get it for you in 1-3 days since they personally take it in. since i am already paying $1000 i'd rather just have it in hand for $100 more.
    good luck all !!!
     
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    Spoke to NHS trust - who after checking, state that there will be no problem getting any care on a fiance visa as they are settling permanently in the UK.

    I totally agree with you re the agency - we submitted online application today and got a biometric appointment quickly as we elected a center outside Manhattan - This seems to be causing the delay, as you can't apply until biometrics have been taken and Manhattan is pretty booked up - the Queens center at Jamaica Ave had lots of availability.

    Good luck
     
  12. kimbap

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    Hi Sebaka:

    I submitted the online last week and got an appt at the Brooklyn Center. They had a lot of availability too. I arrive on Tuesday go to the appt on Wed and hope to have it by the time I leave 11 days later on the next Thursday. The expeditor said the very latest would be Wednesday but probably Monday or Tuesday. Such a hassle!!!!

    Good luck!
     
  13. Lady Edwards

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    Hey guys I put this in a separate post by itself, but I said I would post something here about how my application went, so here it is, although, it's a bit long!

    I am a US citizen and my husband is British. I just received an email saying that I was approved for a UK settlement visa and thought I would share my experience for everyone else who might need this information.

    We met while studying abroad in Germany in 2004. We were married October 2006. From then until now we have traveled back and forth every couple of months. We have a two year old and I am also pregnant with our second child.

    In our application we included:

    1. online application

    2. Biometric confirmation sheet, including the stamp that USCIS puts on it
    (YOU NEED TO KEEP THE BIOMETRIC CONFIRMATION SHEET, it doesn't state this on britainusa.com, but says so on the confirmation sheet and also says that you must send it in with the visa application, you must also print this out to take the appointment to get your finger prints done or they won't let you in, you also have to take your passport to the biometric appointment)

    3. My american passport

    4.His british passport

    5.Our marriage license (we were married in South Carolina, USA)

    6.The tenancy agreement for our apartment in London (both of our names are on our lease)

    7.Letter of support, which we made like a cover letter stating my husband's support of my application, his intention that we live together, and stating our university degrees and experience and my intention to work in the UK

    8. Proof of relationship- I included two pictures of us together with our son, one email from me to him from last year, a card that he sent me after we were married and our son's birth certificate. I also put sticky notes sticking out of our passports showing the stamps of our visits to each other.

    9. Proof of financial support- My husband had quit his job two weeks before we applied and had not found another job yet. So we put in
    -My resume
    -his resume
    -my university transcript from an american university
    -a letter from his university saying that he had a degree
    - his pay stubs from the past eight months of him working
    -one online job advertisement that I was qualified for
    -a letter from a recruiter saying that he could find my husband a higher paying job with longevity
    -one online job advertisement that my husband was qualified for
    -a budget I made in Excel which included our rent, basic utilities, food and travel.
    -two bills from EDF and Thames water stating how much we paid monthly ( this was to go along with the budget sheet)
    -a copy of my bank accounts which had only $700
    - a copy of my husband's british account which had 400GBP, however his last paycheck had not yet been deposited because of some computer error, we had the pay stub but the money wasn't in the account, so I put a sticky note on the last pay stub saying it hadn't been deposited yet and stuck it with the bank statement. So with the paycheck we would have had 1100 GBP in my husband's account.


    I put all of this together in a notebook, with all the documents in their own page protector and separated into sections.

    I sent my application to the NYC Consulate on Saturday January 5, 2008. I had it over-nighted and it arrived on Monday January 7 at 11:30 am. I checked this with the post office tracking service. I got an email at the end of business day Tuesday January 8 saying that my documents had arrived and they were being processed.

    On Friday January 25 the embassy called me to ask me questions about my application. They wanted to know if my son would be entering the UK on his British passport ( he would as he is a dual citizen and has both an american and british passport), why my husband had left his job ( I said he wanted a shorter commute), and if I had looked into employment in the UK ( I said that I hadn't directly contacted places about work but had looked into my industry and that there was work available).
    They called me at 9:30 and by noon they had sent me an email saying I was approved, the visa had been issued and gave me my tracking number.

    In total from the time they sent me an email saying that they had received my documents until they issued the visa was 14 business days and 18 real days. I'm not including the day my application actually arrived at the embassy.

    I had been "visiting" my husband for the past four months in England. We came back together to the USA for the holidays and had scheduled a flight to go back on the 16th of January. This was cutting it close we know, but since they said it only took 5 business days we thought we had enough time. Well, we didn't. We missed our flight and the embassy had my husband's passport so he couldn't leave.

    He had to call and leave several messages at the Atlanta embassy (because they are responsible for passports for our region) and the NY embassy ( because that is where his passport was). It took four days for them to contact us, but this was only after my husband left a desperate message saying he was stranded here and needed help because they embassy wouldn't give him his passport back and that he needed to go home. We got a call back from the NY embassy and the woman said the ONLY reason she called back was because he had said he was British and had a passport emergency but that she didn't handle any visa enquiries and since his passport was at the visa office, officially he had a visa enquiry. But Thankfully she said she would call the visa section and have them call us back. They did, about an hour later, and said they would return his passport, which arrived the next day.

    If by chance you need to call the embassy you have to leave a message wherever you can. You will never get in touch with a real person when you call, and their phone numbers are set up so that you can't get in touch with anyone, and it's hard to find a place to leave a message. Don't bother with emailing or calling the Worldbridge or Abtran people. They have no information and can't tell you who else to call. We knew they coudln't give us any information on the status of our application, so we only wanted to know who to get in touch with to get my husband's passport back and they couldn't help at all. Once you send it in, you are on your own. We left messages with consulate matters at the Atlanta consulate and in NY we pressed every option until we could find somewhere to leave a message. It takes a while to find this. However at the NY consulate if you press option 6 on the first menu and option 6 on the next menu, you can leave a message "for a member of staff".

    Any way my husband went home on Monday and I got my email approval on Friday, yesterday.

    As for income, my husband made 17,000 GBP at the job he just quit. He was in sales, so he had commission on top of this, but usually brought home between 1100-1600/month. I am a behavioral therapist for autistic children and provide in home early intervention. I design the entire educational and behavioral program. Not many people do this, so it's usually easy to find work. My husband and I both have Bachelor's degrees.

    Hope is helps, and I think this is everything, i get responses to this post so, I'll be happy to answer
     
  14. elorton

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    settlement visa

    Kimbap - what expeditor did you use? Were you happy with them? How much did it cost?
     
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    expediter

    Hi there.
    I used A Briggs. They are in Washington so you have to fed ex them your documents and then they look it over and submit them. I thought they were great: efficient and communicative and knowlegable. My total extra cost was $32 to fed ex the packet. and then $115 to them which includes their fee to overnight the packet with visa back to me.
    They were great. The embassy rep called me today Tuesday Feb 5th and suggested that I just wait and get a spousal visa in April since my wedding will be in the U.S. -- they said they would hold my app and I wouldn't have to pay again. Other wise it would have been ready today EXCEPT YOU NEED A NOTARIZED COPY OF YOUR SPONSOR"S PASSPORT IF YOU DON"T HAVE THE ACTUAL PASSPORT. I am writing that in caps because they don't tell you that in the email they send you with the required documents. They just ask for a copy. If you have that and all of your docs, A Briggs can take it in for you and turn it around in 5 biz days. As in I fed exed it on the 30th, they got it on the 1st and they would have had it today and back to me tomorrow the 6th if I had the notarized copy. their number is on the british embassy's website under expediters. they may only handle ones through the NYC embassy though.
     
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    Thanks Kimbap. I'll use Briggs. What type of evidence of financial support did you send? Bank Statements? If so, did you have to send originals or could you send copies? I'm sure the person at Briggs will be able to answer all of these questions, I'm just a little overanxious since we'll only be in the US for 2 weeks and need to get the visa during that time.
     
  17. kimbap

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    i gave them three months of bank statements which i printed off the internet. they were actual PDF's of statements though, not just a printout of transactions. he (embassy guy) said that was fine. i am sure photocopies of mailed statements would be fine but you can ask the people at a briggs. they were very good about questions.
    as long as you sked your visa appt for the day after you arrive (or the day of if you don't mind taking chances with flight arrival!) and you can send off your packet to the expediter that day you should be fine.
    they are most concerned with your finances i think. if you and your partner have a decent bit of savings you should have no trouble as long as you have all of the other docs some of which are a formality. i don't think they are aggressively trying to prove how well americans know their partner. i suspect they scrutinize that for apps from countries where arranged or forced marriages are common.
     
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