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Discussione in 'Immigration UK' iniziata da Bluerain77, 9 Gennaio 2006.

  1. Bluerain77

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    If a US citizen is intending to get married to a UK citizen and live in the UK (England), is it easier to get married in the UK (entering in on a Fiancee Visa) or in the US (entering in on a Spouse visa). With either of these is there a way that you can remain together as much as possible during this time. Where would it be easier to get married? Also when married would my husband be able to enter the US easier since married to a US citizen (to visit)? And what if the US citizen has a child that will be moving with her? (the other parent has relinquished rights) Also, could the UK stepparent adopt the child eventually? At a loss for all these little details. Need help.
    Thanks!
     
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    Problem is, because of the new visa regulations, the UK citizen would HAVE to get a visa to get into the US. (1 minor arrest 10 years ago-young and stupid action) Also, we would be getting married in the US, but going to return to the UK to live. That is the hitch. Is it possible for him to come to the US as a visitor, get married and then us both (and my daughter) go back to the UK. Would we be able to file for a spousal visa while in the UK? When I go to the UK after the marriage, would I come as a visitor then we apply for a spousal visa?
    Hope that makes it clearer.
    Thanks for the info though!
     
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    No, that is not possible.Your application would be refused .You have to apply from the country you reside in.Only if you have visa for more then 6 months and different condition one ,you could apply as a spouse within UK.
    I suggest you call British embassy and ask them about your kid.I guess you will need lots of documentation,its not straight forward application.
     
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    So he could travel (visitor visa) here, we could get married and then apply for a spousal visa for me to get into the UK? Which will take a while I assume (know the time frame on that?) . Can I travel during that time? Can I go visit the UK while my spousal visa is being processed?
    Sorry I have all these little tidbit questions. :)
     
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    You can get married in the US on a visitor visa, so long as you aren't intending to stay. This is what I did (British/French nationality) so that my US husband could move to Britain. As far as I know it does not make getting into the US any easier for me - there are no shortcuts. I'd have to use the same process as everyone else. But I can assure you that it is much simpler getting wed over there and then applying for Family Permit/spousal visa to get into Britain than trying to get married in the UK.
     
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    Alabama , yes its easy to get married in US, 15 minutes in Las Vegas and off you go.My only concern in her situation is welfare of the kid and application that would follow.Hope all works out! :D
     
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    Yes - with a kid involved there's really no room for slip-ups. Hope it all goes OK for you all.
     
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    Not sure which is easier, but my UK husband and I (US) were married in 2003. He came over on a visitor (B2) visa, we got married in the US. Went to Chicago a few days later and I got a 2 year spouse visa on the day.(stood in line in the morning and went to pick it up in the afternoon.
    Left for England a few days after that and was able to work(or look for a job) no problem when I arrived. We didn't have to be apart at all. I think for your child you just apply for her as well, but I'm not sure. Since then we have traveled back and forth between UK and US with no problems. He is still on his B2 and I have a 2 year visa for the UK
    Hope this helps, any more question?
     
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    k another question. I know in the UK no one will marry you if you are not there with a fiancee visa. Are there any places that you can get married close by? What happens if you do that? Will the US/UK recognize it? Can we just go back to the US and apply for the Spousal visa then?
     
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    Ok. Now I remember my original question. Is there a way for me, a US citizen, and my daughter to live in the UK for longer than 6 months (what visa?) and not get married? We would be living with my UK boyfriend. I saw the work/holiday visa.
     
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    To be eligible as a working holiday-maker, you must:

    Be a Commonwealth Citizen, British Dependent Territories Citizen or British Overseas Citizen

    Want to come to the UK for an extended holiday and intend to take some incidental employment

    Be single or be married to a person who also qualifies as a working holiday-maker and you plan to take the working holiday together

    Not have any dependent children who are aged five years or over, or who will be five before you complete your holiday

    Understand that your holiday (not work) is the main reason for your visit

    Be able to support and accommodate yourself without help from public funds

    Not have any commitments which require a regular salary

    Be able to pay for your onward journey

    Plan to leave the UK at the end of your holiday
     
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    It depends on whether money is an issue or whether you have specific requirements for where you'd like to marry. Maybe you really want to marry in your home town, or maybe your fiance really wants to marry in his country? The 2 best ways to do it are :

    1) It is cheaper (and far easier) to marry in the US (he enters US on visitor visa, you marry there) and then go to your closest British Consul and apply for a spouse visa. You can then enter the country on this spouse visa and live and work there for 2 years. Don't underestimate the importance of being able to work straight away. The UK is an amazingly expensive place to live and you may well need the income straight away?

    2) If you want to marry in the UK, you need to apply for a Fiance visa whilst still in the US, enter the UK on that visa, and marry within the 6 month validity of that visa. You then have to apply for a spouse visa whilst in the UK, you must apply for this after the marriage and before the expiry of the Fiance visa. This is more expensive as you need to pay for first the Fiance visa and then also the Spouse visa. Also note you can't work till the Spouse visa has been approved.

    I know you have a child involved so things start getting trickier there. You need to have sole custody and possibly a few other things. You should really speak to the UK Consulate or speak to an Immigration solicitor. Or your fiance could go to his local Citizen's Advice Bureau and speak to an immigration specialist there (either free of charge or for a very small fee). I know it might cost you a bit to get legal advice but the entire marriage and visa process is expensive anyway, this is just a small cost in the grand scheme of things.

    Sure, loads of places nearby to marry. Ireland (residential period 15 days), Cyprus, Malta, Italy (Florence in particular is very popular for US citizen weddings and is very easy I believe). You have a lot of research to do I guess. Start at the immigration or marriage registry websites of these countries. Google will be a great friend.

    Yes the US and UK will recognise these weddings.

    BUT - you CANNOT switch from a visitor visa to a spouse visa in the UK. You would need to go back to the US to do this. This is now starting to sound like a very expensive way to do it for you... you're suggesting flying to UK on visitor visa, flying to Europe to marry, then flying back to US, applying for correct visa, flying back to UK. Wouldn't it be easier, faster and cheaper to do it properly to begin with?

    By all means if you prefer to do it that way you're definately allowed to do it that way, but it does mean a lot of extra expense.

    Hope this helps? Please let us know what you end up doing.
     
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    You're not eligible for the WHV. If you saw it, you will have also seen that it is for Commonwealth citizens.

    There are loads of other ways to enter the country for longer periods than 6 months.

    Do you have any UK or EU ancestry? If your parents or grandparents were UK citizens you might be eligible for Right Of Abode. Likewise, if your family roots are Italian or Dutch or French, you might be eligible to apply for a European passport, which would allow you to live and work anywhere in the EU, this includes the UK.

    Are you eligible for the HSMP?

    Have you looked into Work Permit employment? If, for example, you're a nurse or teacher or doctor or engineer or some of the other occupations listed on the Shortage Occupation list (you can find this on the Work Permits UK website) then you stand a pretty good chance of getting an employer to sponsor you for a Work Permit.

    How about going back to school? Study at a recognised college or university for a minimum 15 hours per week and you can get a student visa. This will allow you to work up to a maximum of 20 hours per week.

    Loads of options there, do any of them apply?
     
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    Unfortunately no...none apply. Will probably be going the Spousal Visa route. The question is, how long does it take to apply for a child to come over? I know you can get a spousal visa in a day. But I am assuming I couldn't apply for my daughter until after I prove I am married...so even though I can get back to the UK, doesn't mean that my daughter will be granted entry immediately....
     
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    I dont have that information .
    I would suggest you ask phone/email embassy in question.
     
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    Sorry Bluerain, I've no idea. I don't have kids so I have never read a single word about immigration/visas for families.

    Like I said before, you need to get proper legal advice. Like, pronto.

    Sorry I couldn't help
     
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    http://www.workpermit.com/uk/marriage.htm

    There's some info there. You should apply at the same time. I know that with the K1 visa forms, it asks you about any dependants travelling with you at the time of your application, etc. If you get granted the visa, your children should also be granted it as well. Just make sure you have passports and all the required documents for them!!! I hope I've helped in some way :)
     
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