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✎ EN EEC1- getting passport back for travel

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  1. kjfaughnan

    kjfaughnan Active Member

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    I'm about to submit the EEC1 application for residence. I need to travel in a month though. Someone at the home office made it sound very easy to get my passport back and said that it would not slow up the application - I just request it 10 days before travel. (on the Home Office website though it says requesting passports means that the application is withdrawn). Has anyone done this before and how easy was it?
    Kelly
     
  2. dromi

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    I got my eec1 residence aproveed after 5 long month. It makes no sense to do what your saying, it's just going to be a big stress for you and the possibility that they withdraw your application. I would recomend either to go back home apply form there (youll get 6month but will be able to work and then you apply eec1 with any worries), or send your application after your trip. I wouldn't do what your saying...
     
  3. kjfaughnan

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    Too late... My husband and I already submitted our passports along with the EEC1 application to the IND. Two different people from IND assured us that we could request our passports back without the application being withdrawn, so we will see how this goes. I haven't bought the tickets yet, but I need to go home in a month to bring my cat back to the UK. I will let you know how it all goes.
     
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    Hi there,
    We have the same problem! Home Office would not give us a direct answer. My husband called twice. I have written a letter explaining why i need my passport. It sounded like it will be up to the Immigration Officer at the airport whether to let me in or not. Please let us know how it went for you. I am travelling to the States beginning of November. Home Office said to call them end of October and hear what they have to say then.
     
  5. Glauco

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    Hi everyone,
    the thing is: they tell you cannot request the passport back TO TRAVEL cause they consider it withdrawn of application.
    I have a friend who requested back TO TRAVEL (she is the european one, and partner non european) after 3 months and they sent back with the visa!!!
    I tried to do the same. I requested back telling I was sick and needed to register with NHS, so that's why I needed my passport - so as it was not to travel, they could not withdrawn my case, so they sent the passport with the visa!!
     
  6. kjfaughnan

    kjfaughnan Active Member

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    Glauco, that would be great if --when I request my passport back-- they send it back with the residency permits/documents.
    It does say on the website that requesting the passport back means a withdraw of the application, but I spoke with two people at the Home Office who said it would not withdraw the application. I have not requested my passport back yet, as I haven't finalized my travel plans. When I do, I will let you all know how it goes.
     
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    I got my passport with the permit yesterday! What a relief. I applied in July so maybe there are finally starting to process applications faster. Good luck everyone.
     
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    question for slackalley

    Did you apply at the beginning or end of July? I applied for residence document at the beginning of august, but still haven't heard nothing. Did you apply as a worker, self-employed or self sufficient?
     
  9. kjfaughnan

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    The Home Office website now says they are processing European applications from August. But maybe they are still on July... I applied in September so I guess I have a few more months to wait.
     
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    i applied beginning of july as a worker but then they send us aletter about a month ago asking for my husbands details. i also had aletter from my agency urging them to process it ist faster cuase they wanted to send me to switzerland for a job. i got the pp back but with no stamp and too late for the job so we send it back with a letter saying there was a misunderstanding and that i would definetely need my pp back by nov as i would be attending a very important seminar (which is true).my husband also called several times.
     
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    slackalley

    Is your husband the EU national and you the dependant or the other way around? What additional info they needed? We send them my recent payslips, my EU wife's and my passport, and marriage certificate. We filled EEC1.
     
  12. kjfaughnan

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    My Husband (Swedish) and I (USA) just called home office and requested our passports back for travelling in November. Sounds like it should be fine getting the passports back. But now I am nervous about re-entering the UK and if they might put one of those "can't work in the UK" stamps in my passport. I was just offered a job this week, but haven't sorted the paper work out for it yet, but I don't want anything like that in my passport. My EEA family permit has now expired, but we submitted the EEC1 application prior to expiration like we were supposed to. The Home Office sent a confirmation letter but typed in the wrong address for my husband (they got mine right) so we never did get the letter so I don't have that to show immigration.

    Should I risk traveling?

    Hey, I have another complaint. When I applied for the EEA family permit in the USA, I said I was moving to UK in July- why didn't they make the permit start from that date? Instead they started it from last April, so it was only valid for three months once I entered the UK- Annoying! I would not have applied so early if I had known!!
     
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    Hi,
    hopefully you will receive your residence permit when they send your passport back! Fingers crossed, there's one chance.
    Maybe they don't send it with the visa yet cause you just applied in September, right? But there's one chance still.
    Hmm, are you going to the States? What if you apply for a new Family Permit? Would you have time to do that? I mean, time to go to the embassy/consulate? Or send to them per post? They would send the passport back very fast. If you really need to travel, i would advise you to apply for a new Family Permit.

    They started your visa in April and not in July, cause normally they can postpone the start of your visa for a maximum of 2 months. But you need to beg to do that it seems. They don't postpone the start of the validity of your visa easily.

    But then, if you apply for a new Family Permit, it's much easier for you later to go to your job interviews, etc. Easier to prove that you can live here! If you go to the interview without a valid visa (even that you can live here as dependent EEA citizen) they will be afraid of giving you the job. So I would apply if possible for a new Family Permit.
     
  14. kjfaughnan

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    Yes, like you said it is possible that they will just send back the passports with the residence documents/permit, but who knows...

    We are going to Sweden, not the US. Actually I need to go to the US to get my cat, but I am scared to buy the tickets and then not get the passport back in time- tickets to Sweden are cheaper of course. But maybe I should stay home. Getting a job is more important!

    I guess having entered the UK on the EEA family permit, even if it has expired, I still have "current right of residence" in the UK. This is one thing the employer asks for as proof of right to work: "passport with endorsement stating that holder has a current right of residence in UK as a family member of a EEA national who is residence in UK"
     
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    Oh yes,
    you have the right of residence anyway!! Simply for the fact you are married to an EU citizen!!
    The residence permit is just a confirmation of your status. But you can get a job for sure, even with expired family permit in this case.
    Just go to the interview and show them your expired visa. You will have no problem!
    I just just a bit not sure about the situation that happens when traveling abroad. We never know... we have to depend on the immigration officer's mood somehow! ;-)
     
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    Forgive me if you've answered this elsewhere, but how did it work out? Did you get your passports back? Was your application withdrawn? (I need to know because I'm about to be in exactly the same position!)

    Thanks.
     
  17. kjfaughnan

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    Glauco,
    It has been two weeks now and I still haven't been able to convince the employer I have the right to work here. The fact that the EEA family permit is expired is a real hang-up. Unfortunately where is says on the Home Office/IND website that the EEA family permit is proof of right to work, it says nothing about what it means if it is expired- IND could have just explained it better there! Any ideas.... I will be speaking with a Eurojus advisor soon.

    My husband and I did request our passports back and got them back- it was slow though. I needed mine for the employer and he was traveling. I was going to travel too but then didn't because the passports came with a letter stating that if we traveled I would have to apply for another EEA family permit for returning to the UK. I guess you can only get that in a country you live also... I checked to see if I could apply for one in Copenhagen and they said no. I have already sent the passports back back and it seems like our application is still active. But someone else on the forum said that their application was mistakenly withdrawn when they requested passports back.
     
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