Hi everyone,

Finally we got EEA family permit with my husband. We are going to UK 3-4 weeks later.

We got family permit for 6 months (like everyone) and ... I want to find out what later? I mean what should we do when it will be finishing. I understand that of course we have to have work, register etc ... but if anyone knows exactly how it looks, please let me know.

Thank you so much for your help,
Ania

 

Hi, I want to explain my situation more (also on the request of the administrator).

I am Polish, married with Turkish. We applied for EEA family permit on January 2005 and finally got it We applied in Poland, in UK Embassy.

My husband's visa started from yesterday (11.07.2005) and it is valid for next 6 months.

I want to find out what should we do after coming to London (we are flying on 04.08.2005). I just want to find out as much as I can here.

Thank you for your help,
Ania

P.S. By the way, should we take all our pictures, letters which are confirming our marriage? Maybe one Office will need it.

 

Hi Aleksandra, I still didn't find anything. I mean any details. What I founf out is that your husband has the same rights like you have (Home Office page), so also ha has the right to work. To tell you the truth I think that in this situation, finding job for him is more important than to find job for us. Because ... we can stay there as long as we want (as long we have money) and our husbands visa is for 6 months.
As soon as he will get job you should:
1. register him in Home Office (we should do the same also)
Please get the WRS form from Home Office page or from www.londynek.com. Then send the form to Home Office (by post). The address is: WORKER REGISTRATION TEAM, HOME OFFICE, WALSALL ROAD, CANNOCK, WS11 OWS. Please send this form as "special delivery" or "recorded delivery". Of course keep the confirmation. Also with the form you have to send: letter from the employer, two passport pictures, passport, and payment: 50 pounds. That 50 pounds you can pay at post office (postal order). Thay are taking that 50 pounds only once. When your husband will change work, I think later he has to send that form again. Later (by post) they will send you back: passport, card, confirmation about your work. Before you will be sending that documents to Home Office, you can make copy for the employer of WRS form.
If you have any questions, please call: 0114 259 6262, or e-mail: WRS@ind.homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
2. second step is to get national insurance number (NIN) and this time he will get it for free, from Department of Social Security (DSS). After getting to UK, finding job ... please visit www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk and you will find the nearest office to your house. Anyway you can find lots from their page.

It is generally all what I know. If you will find out something, please leave me message here, if it is possible for you. I am going to London on 03.08.2005. We will be flying at 6.15 from Warsaw. I have no idea how we will get up

Good luck at your trip. I hope you will find out everything.
Take care, Ania

 

I wrote not correct page
www.londynek.net ... also there you can find some info.

 

Hi,

Now I am a little scared. First, I read on Home Office page that my husband has the same right and now ... from your e-mail I can find out something absolutly different.

We are going to London on 03.08.2005 and we are planning to stay there. My husband has there family, so I hope that they can support us.

Today I will try to call Home Office (it is really difficult to catch free line) or read more on Home Office page.
If I will find out something more, I will let you know.

Take care,
Ania

 

from Home Office page and I think this is the most important

Your family's rights

If your family are EEA nationals, they have the same rights to live and work in the United Kingdom as you. The information in this section will be most relevant to members of your family who are not EEA nationals (non-EEA family members).

Can my family join me in the United Kingdom?

Yes, if you have a right to live in the United Kingdom, your family may join you.

Under European Community law, your family includes:


your husband or wife;
your, or your husband's or wife's, children or grandchildren (if they are under 21 or, if they are over 21 and dependent on you); and
dependent relatives, for example, your husband's or wife's parents and grandparents.
If you are a student, only your husband or wife and your dependent children can join you.

What about my other relatives?

Your other relatives (such as brothers, sisters, cousins and so on) do not have an automatic right to live in the United Kingdom with you.

However, we will consider applications for your other relatives to join you if you are working in the United Kingdom and:


they are your dependant; or
they were living with you before you came to the United Kingdom.
How can my family come to live with me in the United Kingdom?

Non-EEA family members must get an EEA family permit before they travel to the United Kingdom if they are coming to live with you permanently or on a long-term basis.

Does my family need to get an EEA family permit if they are coming to visit me in the United Kingdom?

Yes, they will need to get an EEA family permit if they normally need a visa to travel to the United Kingdom. (You can get information about visas from UK visas.)

Members of your family who are not visa nationals do not need to get an EEA family permit to visit you as long as they will be staying in the United Kingdom for less than six months.

What is an EEA family permit?

An EEA family permit is a form of entry clearance (like a visa) that you are given, free of charge, so members of your family who are not EEA nationals can travel to the United Kingdom.

You must apply for an EEA family permit in the country in which your non-EEA family member is living, to the nearest British Embassy, High Commission or other British Diplomatic Post that can issue entry clearance (see 'How to get more information').

Your non-EEA family members should apply for EEA family permits well before the date they want to travel to the United Kingdom.

Will my non-EEA family members need to do anything when they arrive in the United Kingdom?

Non-EEA family members do not need to register with the police.

Your non-EEA family members can, if they want to, apply to us for a residence document. A residence document simply confirms that they have a right to live with you in the United Kingdom because you have a right of residence. The residence document we give your family member will be valid for the same period as your residence permit.

Non-EEA family members who have a valid residence document do not need to get an EEA family permit each time they enter the United Kingdom after travelling abroad.

How can my family member apply for a residence document?

You, or your family member, should write to us at our Croydon offices.

We will need:

your passport or national identity card;


your residence permit (you will need to apply for one if you do not already have one);
proof that you still have a right to live in the United Kingdom;
your family member's passport; and
proof of the relationship between you and your family member (if your husband or wife is applying, we will need to see proof that you are legally married, for example, your marriage certificate).


I will be looking for more.

 

All documents should be originals.

If you are a national of one of the new member states and you are in employment, your family members will not be eligible for a residence document unless you are eligible for a residence permit. However, if you have registered under the Worker Registration Scheme, they can obtain a family member residence stamp. Applications for family member residence stamps should be made on form EEC3 and sent to the address detailed on the form.

Can you refuse to give my family an EEA family permit, residence document or family member residence stamp?

We will not give your family an EEA family permit, residence document or family member residence stamp if you do not have a right of residence in the United Kingdom.

We will not treat a non-EEA husband or wife who is part of a marriage of convenience as a member of your family. A marriage of convenience is one that is for immigration purposes only, with neither partner planning to live with the other as husband and wife in a genuine relationship.

Can my family work in the United Kingdom?

Yes, your family can work in the United Kingdom. They do not need a work permit.

Could my family lose their right to stay in the United Kingdom?

Your family could lose their right of residence in the United Kingdom if you:

no longer have a right of residence in the United Kingdom;
leave the United Kingdom permanently; or
are not working in the United Kingdom and either you or your family need help from public funds.
Your husband or wife may lose their right of residence in the United Kingdom if you divorce.

Other information

How much does it cost to get a residence permit, residence document or EEA family permit?

They are all free.

How can I apply for permission to stay in the United Kingdom indefinitely?

European Economic Area Nationals may apply for indefinite leave if they have completed 4 years of residence in the United Kingdom during which time they have been either in employment, self-employment, or been economically self-sufficient. Those who have been dependant on the income of a spouse / family member may also apply. Time spent as a student does not though count towards the 4 years qualifying period.

Third country nationals who are either the spouses or dependant family members of European Economic Area nationals may apply independently for indefinite leave if they have lived in the United Kingdom for 4 years. However, they will need to provide evidence that their European Economic Area family member has lived in the United Kingdom and been engaged in employment, self-employment, or been economically self-sufficient, during this qualifying period.

Swiss nationals and their dependant family members will qualify in the same way.

Applications for indefinite leave can be made using form EEC2.

However, it is a requirement of the rules that a European Economic Area national should have been issued a Residence Permit before they can qualifying for Indefinite Leave to Remain. If a Residence Permit has not been applied for prior to the completing of the qualifying period an applicant should also complete form EEC1. Both applications should be forwarded together to European Casework.

Passports or National Identity cards should be supplied along with evidence of 4 years employment, self-employment, or economic self-sufficiency. This could take the form of 4 P60 tax certificates or a letter from the Inland Revenue confirming the payment of income tax. These circumstances, as well as the circumstances in which permanent residence would not be required are explained in nationality leaflets, for example BN7 and BN9 (children)

How to get more information

You can get guidance leaflets and information about visas from UK visas. Please write to:

Visa Correspondence Section
UKvisas
London
SW1A 2AH
United Kingdom.

General enquiries: +44 (0)20 7008 8438
Application forms: +44 (0)20 7008 8308
Fax numbers: +44 (0)20 7008 8359/8361

SWISS NATIONALS

As from 1 June 2002 the information in this leaflet will also apply to Swiss nationals.

What rights will I have as a Swiss National?

You will have the same rights as EEA Nationals.


You can use the EU/EEA channel when you enter the United Kingdom
You can work in the United Kingdom without requiring a work permit
You can apply for a residence permit to show that you have a right to live in the United Kingdom. For information on how to apply for a residence permit, click here
Your family members may be entitled to live with you in the United Kingdom. For information on how you can apply for your family members to join you, click here.
POSTED WORKERS

If you are a Swiss National or a Swiss Company that conducts business in the United Kingdom you may send employees to work in a United Kingdom for you for a maximum period of 90 days without having to apply for work permits for them.

Do the employees have to have worked for me or my company in Switzerland?

Yes they must have been working for you in Switzerland or an EEA State for a reasonable period of time.

Do my employees need work permits before travelling to the UK?

Yes. If your employees are not nationals of the European Economic Area or Swiss nationals they will need to apply for a posted workers authorisation. You can get information on this by contacting UK Visas. Please write to:

Visa Correspondence Section
UKvisas
London
SW1A 2AH
United Kingdom

General enquiries: +44 (0)20 7008 8438
Application forms: +44 (0)20 7008 8308
Fax numbers: +44 (0)20 7008 8359/8361

 

Hi Aleksandra,


I called Home Office and I was shocked - but pls do not worry. I was thinking that someone really professional will answer my phone, and I was nervous about my English ... but promise u, there was nothing to worry about. First of all, this person which answered my phone, wasn't professional at all and the only thing I found out, is the telephone to Immigration and Nationality Directorate, which is 0870 606 77 66. I wrote them e-mail and waiting for the answer. Anyway I will try to call them tom. or today.

Yesterday I was looking for some info. on Home Office page. This is what I found - maybe it will help you a little.

The information in this section will be most relevant to members of your family who are not EEA nationals (non-EEA family members).

Can my family join me in the United Kingdom?
Yes, if you have a right to live in the United Kingdom, your family may join you.

Under European Community law, your family includes:
your husband or wife;
your, or your husband's or wife's, children or grandchildren (if they are under 21 or, if they are over 21 and dependent on you); and
dependent relatives, for example, your husband's or wife's parents and grandparents.
If you are a student, only your husband or wife and your dependent children can join you.

How can my family come to live with me in the United Kingdom?
Non-EEA family members must get an EEA family permit before they travel to the United Kingdom if they are coming to live with you permanently or on a long-term basis.

Does my family need to get an EEA family permit if they are coming to visit me in the United Kingdom?
Yes, they will need to get an EEA family permit if they normally need a visa to travel to the United Kingdom. (You can get information about visas from UK visas.)
Members of your family who are not visa nationals do not need to get an EEA family permit to visit you as long as they will be staying in the United Kingdom for less than six months.

What is an EEA family permit?
An EEA family permit is a form of entry clearance (like a visa) that you are given, free of charge, so members of your family who are not EEA nationals can travel to the United Kingdom.
You must apply for an EEA family permit in the country in which your non-EEA family member is living, to the nearest British Embassy, High Commission or other British Diplomatic Post that can issue entry clearance (see 'How to get more information').
Your non-EEA family members should apply for EEA family permits well before the date they want to travel to the United Kingdom.

Will my non-EEA family members need to do anything when they arrive in the United Kingdom?
Non-EEA family members do not need to register with the police. Your non-EEA family members can, if they want to, apply to us for a residence document. A residence document simply confirms that they have a right to live with you in the United Kingdom, because you have a right of residence. The residence document we give your family member will be valid for the same period as your residence permit.
Non-EEA family members who have a valid residence document do not need to get an EEA family permit each time they enter the United Kingdom after travelling abroad.

How can my family member apply for a residence document?
You, or your family member, should write to us at our Croydon offices.

We will need:
- your passport (Ania) or national identity card;
- your residence permit (you will need to apply for one if you do not already have one);
- proof that you still have a right to live in the United Kingdom;
- your family member's passport; and proof of the relationship between you and your family member (if your husband or wife is applying, we will need to see proof that you are legally married, for example, your marriage certificate).

All documents should be originals.
If you are a national of one of the new member states and you are in employment, your family members will not be eligible for a residence document unless you are eligible for a residence permit. However, if you have registered under the Worker Registration Scheme, they can obtain a family member residence stamp. Applications for family member residence stamps should be made on form EEC3 and sent to the address detailed on the form.
Can you refuse to give my family an EEA family permit, residence document or family member residence stamp? We will not give your family an EEA family permit, residence document or family member residence stamp if you do not have a right of residence in the United Kingdom. (Polish people have a right of residence)
Can my family work in the United Kingdom?
Yes, your family can work in the United Kingdom. They do not need a work permit.

Do you need to apply for a residence permit or register with the police?
No, if you have a right to live in the United Kingdom, you can stay here for as long as you want without getting a residence permit or registering with the police.
But, if you want, you can apply to Immigration & Nationality Directorate for a residence permit. A residence permit simply confirms that you have a right to live in the United Kingdom under European Community law.
How to apply for a residence permit?
You can apply to the Home Office using a EEC1 form.
How long are residence permits valid for?
A residence permit is normally valid for five years. However, residence permits may be issued for a shorter period if you are working or studying in the United Kingdom for less than 12 months.


The Home Office will not normally give you a residence permit if:
· You are in the United Kingdom for a short visit;
· You are looking for work;
· You will work and live in the United Kingdom for less than three months; or
· You do not work in the United Kingdom can cannot support yourself without help from public funds.
Can your family work in the United Kingdom?
Yes, your family can work in the United Kingdom. They do not need a work permit.
Could your family lose their right to stay in the United Kingdom?
Your family could lose their right to stay in the United Kingdom if you:
· No longer have a right to live in the United Kingdom;
· Leave the United Kingdom permanently; or
· Are not working in the United Kingdom and either you or your family need help from public funds.
Your husband or wife may lose the right to stay in the United Kingdom if you divorce.

After Entry
ECOs should also explain that after entry to the UK the holder can apply to the Home Office for a residence permit.

The possession of a valid residence document (presently a Home Office endorsement in the holder’s passport) will enable the holder to re-enter the UK without the need for an EEA family permit, so long as s/he continues to qualify as a family member of an EEA national (as defined in Part I (6) of the Regulations), subject to the normal provisions of public policy, public security and public health.

Do I need to apply for a residence permit or register with the police? ANIA
No. If you have the right to live in the UK, you can stay here for as long as you want without getting a residence permit, or registering with the police.
You will need a residence permit if your family members want to apply for a residence document (see the section ‘Your family’s rights').
You can apply to the Immigration and Nationality Directorate (IND) for a residence permit. A residence permit simply confirms that you have the right to live in the UK under European Community law.

Do my family members need a residence document?
Your non-EEA family member can, if they want to, apply to the Immigration and Nationality Directorate for a residence document once they are in the UK. They do not have to do this – it simply confirms that they have a right to live with you in the UK because you have a right of residence. The residence document issued to your family member will have the same validity as your residence permit. Non-EEA family members who have a valid residence document do not need to get an EEA family permit each time they enter the UK after travelling abroad.
Can my family members work in the UK?
Yes. A family member of an EEA national who is exercising their rights under EU law can work. They do not need a work permit.
A family member of an EEA national who intends to travel with them or join them in the UK can work without a work permit. The EEA national must be exercising treaty rights in the UK.

Non-EEA family members who have a valid residence document do not need to get an EEA family permit each time they enter the UK after travelling abroad.

I hope you feel well in London. Please do not worry, it will be all fine. Just now everything probably is new, but just a little ...

 

Hi Aleksandra,

Please read the info below. I hope it will be helpful for you. And do not worry about anything. Good luck

RIGHT OF RESIDENCE IN THE UK
http://www.lawcentreni.org/immigration_ ... age_05.htm
6.1 EEA family permits issued abroad are usually valid for six months, the family must travel to the UK during this time.

Once in the UK, an application should be made by the European spouse/partner to the Home Office in Croydon for an EEA residence permit and an EEA residence document which consists of a stamp in the passport of the non-EEA spouse. Likewise, if the non EEA spouse/partner and/or other family members are already in the UK in some other capacity, an application can be made for the EEA residence permit and residence document. Unlike most other Home Office applications it is not necessary to use a particular form in this case, however, the Home Office has devised Form EEC1 which requests all relevant information and is easy to complete. It is available on the Home Office website at www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk. This application is free.

6.2 The completed form should be sent to the UK Home Office in London, the address can be found at the end of Form EEC1. You should keep a copy of all documents submitted and they should be sent via recorded delivery. The proof of being employed in the UK can be provided by the employer signing the relevant section of the form. EEA residence permits and residence documents are usually valid for five years. However, where the applicant has temporary employment or is seeking work, they may be issued for shorter periods. Renewed applications can be made at the end of the period granted, depending on the circumstances at the time.

Citizens of the EEA countries are entitled to live and work in the UK under European law and members of the family of an EEA national have rights to enter and remain and work in the UK along with the EEA national worker even if they are not EEA nationals themselves

Where the A8 national is in the first twelve months of stay in the UK then s/he is entitled to be joined in the UK only by her/his spouse, their children who are aged under 21 or are dependent, and dependent relatives in the ascending line. The only difference of treatment compared to other EU nationals is that these A8 nationals do not benefit from the right to bring other, more distant, relatives over. However, it is important to note that it is not clear at present what status these family members are being given.

5.6 Spouses, partners and other family members in the UK under these European rules are entitled to take employment, claim benefits and receive medical care under the NHS as well as social services, depending on their needs, in the same way as the EU nationals However, it may be difficult to evidence these rights whilst the application is being processed.

GOOD LUCK

 

Thank you so much for the explanation It helped me lots and now FINALLY I know what to do

Have a nice day,
Ania