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✎ EN Application: Unmarried Partner for common-law relationship

Dieses Thema im Forum "Immigration UK" wurde erstellt von lc20mc, 27. Mai 2005.

  1. lc20mc

    lc20mc Member

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    Hello there,

    My boy friend (EU citizen) and I (Non-EU citizen) plan to apply for the Unmarried partner.

    For the moment, I am holding a student VISA in uk, and my boy friend is working in UK for more than 2 years. We started our relationship back to our university,nearly 3 years ago.

    My problem is:

    1. Between Form FLR(M) and Form EEC1, which has a better chance to get the permit.

    2.Is the Form EEC1 suitable for Unmarried Partner?

    3.Our address prove goes back to the time when we were in the Uni, so, we were staying in the same flat, but obviously not in the same room, will it count as a same address?will they see it as a relationship akin to marriage?

    4. If we apply through EEC1 (which is free, instead of £500.00 for FLR(M)-Ouch!), will I have the right to work in UK? (ie will I get the work permit automatically?)

    5. Next year, he might be sent to other countries outside Uk, but still in EU, for work. Will it affect our status very much?

    6. We do intent to stay with each other, but we do not want to get married so quick, how can I convince HO that we will stay together? What should I answer if they ask"why don't you two get married?"

    Thank you very much for your time and looking forward to your answers

    Regards
     
  2. Coyan

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    Re: Application: Unmarried Partner for common-law relationsh

    The UK will not issue an EU -Resident Permit for the unmarried non-EU partner of an EU National.

    As an unmarried Partner of an EU citizen, the best you can hope for is an Unmarried Partners Permit which is solely at the discretion of the UK authorities and does not give you any protection under EU Law.

    Last but not the least, the Home Office is very likely to ask you to go back to your Home Country and apply for the Unmarried Partners Visa. But if you are going to do that then it may save you both the hustle by getting married and seeking EU Movement Rights which gives you more and better protection than UK Immigration Laws .
     
  3. lc20mc

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    Dear Coyan, Thank you very much for your information. As I understand, I should be using the FLR(M) to apply my extension as an Unmarried Parter to stay in UK. I have booked the interview with home office in the very near future. and my partner is going there with me, hopefully we could convince the HO that we indeed want to stay with each other, it's just, for us, it's not the right time to get married yet.

    I would be very much appreciate if you will be able to tell me if my address prove from the Uni is good enough?

    Thank you very much!
     
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    and for a Married partner?

    If I as a non-EU citizen marry an EU citizen, will I be able to take advantage of EU advantages, like paying the EU fees for a British university?
     
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    Hi Ic20mc

    If your partner is European but non-British, then he could apply for a resident permit - ECC1 and include you as a dependant. The only thing is that he should be able to prove that he has exercised Treaty Rights for 4 years, i.e, either as a worker, student, or financially sufficient, or self-employed.

    I don't know if he could apply both as a worker and as a student (which he was before going into employment). Anyhow, it should cover four years in the UK. Your best bet is to contact the Home Office. They'll be able to help. Having said that, sometimes you have to phone a few times and speak to different people before you get the right information.

    Good Luck
     
  6. daphne

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    Hi Rimbaud, I did not think that there was a requirement for the EU citizen to have exercised treaty rights for four years before he or she could apply for an EEC1 residence permit (together with non-EU dependents). Perhaps you mean that if an EU citizen has exercised treaty rights for four years plus a further year in the U.K. (as required by the 4+1 rule), the EU citizen can apply for British citizenship and therefore can sponsor an unmarried partner.

    This is what I read from the Home Office web site for EEC1 application.
    http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en ... onals.html
     
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    You CAN apply for EEC1 as an unmarried partner as long as you can prove that you have been living for 2 years, and your partner is exercising treaty rights. This is probably the best route you could take. Check Glauco's case, who applied for same sex relationship via EEC1. You will be probably granted a 2 years Visa.

    http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 7&start=15

    Good luck!
     
  9. rimbaud

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    Yes there is a requirement for the EU citizen to have exercised treaty rights for four years prior to applying for the EEC1 or EEC2. I know that all this is very confusing. I have had to phone several times and read extensively about it to actually understand how this works. I've noticed that, unfortunately, a lot of these guys at the Home Office are not well informed about the rules, so some of them always give the wrong or insufficient info.

    I think it's always a matter of luck who deals with your application. At the end of the day it always comes down to that person, how knowledgeable or ignorant he or she is.

    Anyway, at the moment my partner and I are in the system too. We recently applied for the EEC1 and EEC2 (I was told the officer will decide which one to grant us). EEC1 is a resident permit and EEC2 is indefinite leave to remain.

    Dure dure d'être immigré ;)
     
  10. daphne

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    Maybe the four-year rule applies to same-sex relationships. I do not know. But I am quite certain that there is no such rule otherwise. I am also applying for EEC1 and my husband has exercised his treating rights in the U.K. for less than a year (in my case it cannot be EEC2 which is for settlement purpose. We have not lived in the U.K. for four years yet and so are not eligible for it.)

    I know a few non-EU spouses who have got EEC1 residence permits in their first year of living in the U.K.
     
  11. rimbaud

    rimbaud New Member

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    Daphne, I believe you are right. The four yrs treaty rights is required for the application for settlement, that is Indefinite Leave (EEC2), once you already have a resident permit. Otherwise I think it's only one year working requirement. I'm not sure.

    That's what I was talking about, these people at the Home Office always give the wrong info :evil:
     
  12. lc20mc

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    Waiting?!

    Thank you very much for all of your response. I am glad that I am not the only one who is troubled by the waiting time.And, it is until today that I realized I need to wait for nearly 3 MONTHS to get the result! I thought that they say it will be around 3 weeks!!!!!!!1 :( Very sad. But fortunately, as my previous status is a student, until I got the result, I can still working, especially I can work full time during this vacation. That will relieve my partners burden very much. To share with you my little experience regarding the applicaiton.

    22/06/2005, sent out the application form EEC1 and with my status is an Unmarried Partner (common-law relationship) of an EEA citizen.

    11/07/2005 nearly 3 weeks, nothing from HO, not even confirmation of reciept my application. ( So, I search Royal Mail's website with the special delivery Ref No. I got when I send out the mail.) and confirm that they received my documents. Also today, I read some other relevent topics in this website, and found out I need to wait at least 3 months. :eek: http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... c&start=15

    But it is very much helpful from all of you. And please keep on posting any thing you think that might help. At the mean time, I will also keep all of you inform of my own situation.

    Again, thank you very much.

    Regards
     
  13. lc20mc

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    Thank you dromi that give me the link to other information. They are really helpful. I strongly recommended the link to others who is concerning about this matter.
     
  14. lc20mc

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    Hello there, a silly question, suppose I have the VISA (through EEC1 ) to stay here in UK, (and of course, the right to work here as well, )will I be entitled to work in somewhere else in Europe? such as France, Germany? :rolleyes:
     
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