Hi

Couple of questions:Where do you live now?Are you married or plan to get married?

Best we wait for Coyan :thumbsup: he got knowledge of Dutch immigration laws.

Regards

Triple H

 

Good luck to you!

 

Since the murders of Pim Fortyune and Theo Van Gogh, the Dutch have become very right-wing and ultra-conservative. In short they want to restrict immigration as much as possible. Secondly they are very much worried about the immigrant population swamping their 'small' country. and are restricting immigrants based on partnership as much as possible. Thirdly, they are concerned that the muslim immigrant population (majority immigrants) have refused to integrate into the mainstream Dutch society leading to lots os social problems with attendant economic costs to the Public.

This sets the background for contemporary Dutch Immigration rules so that you understand what you have to go through to immigrate to the Netherlands.

These the requirements:

1. You need an MVV Visa (given to Dutch spouses, students etc) to join your spouse in the Netherlands.

To be issued with an MVV:
i. You spouse have to prove that he has a permanent Contract with a Company earning a Minimum of Euros1,321 per month.

ii. You have to pass a Basic Dutch Language Test at the Dutch Embassy in Kuala Lumpur ( Law Passed in Parliament Last Week).

2. On arrival in the Netherlands you will need to apply for a Permanent Residence Permit (issued for a year in the first instance and permanent thereafter) from the Immigration and Nationality Dept (IND). This takes an average of 6 months to be processed.

So the above is the basic procedure for getting a Dutch Residence Permit based on spousal sponsorship.

The only advantage with the Dutch is that they do recognise co-habitation so you needn't marry. But you will have to prove through lots of legal documentations that you are truly single and that your Dutch partner is really your boyfriend.

Alternatively you can just cut the above Dutch Bureacracy by getting married and taking up EU residence in either Belgium or Germany. After which you can still come back to the Netherlands under the protection of EU Law.

Hope the above helps.

 

MPs approve plan for
pre-arrival integration

23 March 2005
AMSTERDAM — The Dutch Parliament has approved compulsory pre-arrival integration exams. Instead of the anticipated widespread media coverage, Dutch newspapers only ran small stories that focused on the nudity issue.

The reports said naked breasts on a beach, gay men kissing and a pop concert from the 1960s will have to be cut from a public information film to be played in foreign countries to would-be immigrants. The 105-minute film is intended to explain what awaits them in the Netherlands and to help them prepare for the exam.

It was the only real reversal for Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk who won Parliament's approval on Tuesday for her plans to force permanent
immigrants to sit an integration exam in their country of origin before entering the Netherlands.

The minister explained that the images had been included in the film because they are part of public life in the Netherlands.
But the Foreign Affairs Ministry warned Minister Verdonk last week that the screening of some scenes could be judged a criminal offence in several Islamic countries.

These nations include Morocco, Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Malaysia and Saudi Arabia. "We don't want people to be prosecuted because they watched our video," Verdonk was quoted saying by newspaper 'Het Parool' on Wednesday. The uncensored version can be watched without threat of prosecution at Dutch embassies.

Following the parliament's vote, non-European Union foreigners who wish to enter the Netherlands on a permanent basis will now be required to undergo a pre-arrival integration exam from 1 June this year if they wish to enter the Netherlands.

When questioned about the lack of media coverage, a Justice Ministry spokesman told Expatica that Dutch journalists had instead been focusing on the Senate vote on Tuesday in which a proposal to implement direct mayoral elections was defeated.
The parliamentary backing of pre-arrival integration on Tuesday came despite concerns from several academics that the technology used to implement the exams is inadequate.

The exams will be completed at Dutch embassies via telephone with automated voice recognition technology. About 14,000 people are expected to undergo the exams each year.
The academics told MPs last week that speech recognition technology is not advanced enough and immigrants could fail the test due to speech impediments or accents.

A spokeswoman for Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk rejected the criticism and said the exams will be just as reliable as if they were taken in the Netherlands.

The Netherlands will now become the first country to demand permanent immigrants take a Dutch language and culture test prior to gaining entry to the country. The plan is designed to reduce the number of immigrant partners, particularly those from Turkey and Morocco.

US, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand and Japanese nationals wishing to join their Dutch partner in the Netherlands are exempt from the pre-arrival courses. Temporary stay expats moving to the Netherlands for work are also be exempted

 

WOW!
How somebody can have knowledge of dutch if never been to Holland ?If they were visiting they would speak in english anyways.So these new immigrants to be have to actually go to dutch school in theyre own contries prior to proposed move.
What is that test like?

 

Re: Hi Conan,

All your husband needs to get a job in Germany is his Dutch Passport as proof of EU Nationality. Thereafter he can apply for you to join him under EU rules.

A few years ago Germany was in high-need of knowledge workers from the IT sector and were even issuing American type 'Green-Cards'. But since the economy took a crunch again about a year ago, they scaled back on their 'Green-Cards' scheme. This shows that the demand for IT workers has dipped over the years.

However the EUREGIO, where Belgium, Netherlands and Germany meet has lots of Multinational Companies and I believe both of you wouldn't find a problem picking up a job in this area. The main towns here are with Aachen in Germany, Liège in Belgium and Maastricht in Netherlands and are within a few hours from each other.