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Discussione in 'Immigration UK' iniziata da Michael, 14 Luglio 2003.

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    dear jordan,
    God bless you ,there is nothing they can do,now that i read you your case
    throughly,as long as you are staying with your wife they cant do nothing,but try and apply from Spain and wait one day they will reply and let your wife keep writting them probably every two weeks interval.
    A brother want advise on Denmark can you let me know where and what he will need.
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    hello sir,
    my name is adnan mustaqeem iam from pakistan iam sewing machine specialist my request is iam required to job in ur country please
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    Visa to Japan for vacation?

    hello there,

    i wish to know how to apply a visa to japan just for vocation? what do i need to summit for the application? i am a singapore PR now but still holding malaysia international passport.
    please reply me as soon as possible! thank-u.

    best regards,
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    Hi

    Help me!! I recently got married to a Colombian girl. I am a British Citizen (UK Passport) but live in Spain. I do not hold a residency card for Spain yet as I have only just applied for it.

    I want my wife to come and live with me in Spain however I am unsure what is my best option. Do you think she should travel here on a tourist visa? The problem with this is that they take such a long time to be issued and there is no guarantee she will get one, also it will only be for a limited time.

    What would you suggest are my best options? Any advice or help would be appreciated.

    Thanks

    Ben
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    Ben,
    I am not an expert on this, as we are in a similar situation & we are trying to figure out what our options are. From having read my previous posts, you will probably know that I am Austrian, my husband Ecuadorean, and we would like to move to Spain (after having established my husband's residency in Austria first.)
    From what I have understood you need to get the tarjeta comunitaria first, then you can send for your wife and she can apply for the visa 'reagrupacion familiar' in Colombia. The problem is time, isn't it, and what to do until the bureaucrats have finally issued you the crucial document that will allow you to send for your wife officially. Out of my gut I'd say have her come over on a tourist visa in the meantime, just so that you can wait together with her ... But of course that involves a lot of $$$ as after three months she will have to return to Colombia to apply for the official visa! And then another period of waiting until she gets that visa.
    From what Michael has told us it does not seem possible for non-EUs to apply for the residence permit in Spain if they have entered on a tourist visa. That is what complicates things so...
    Here in Austria rules seem to be a bit more lax and they do seem to issue residence cards if you enter with a tourist visa, so this is what we are going to try with my husband.
    Have you considered getting the UK residency for your wife first? Is this an option at all? Or would it just complicate things more ?
    My reasoning is that once she is firmly established in one EU country moving to another would be a lot easier as she wouldn't have to return to Colombia for getting visas (the UK would issue the visa for Spain).

    Sorry if I am not a help at all but just complicating things more!
    At any rate I sincerely sympathize as we are in the same boat
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    Alice

    PS I found this site helpful as it has a lot of legal info on immigration to Spain. http://www.extranjerossinpapeles.com/index.htm

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    Ben, another thing ...
    today I went to an office for legal aid for foreigners and they gave me all sorts of interesting tips. I can only speak in terms of what is legal in Austria, though. They told us that should the Police reject my husband's tourist visa (because it is going to be issued by the Spanish embassy, not the Austrian one) we could always leave Austria and seek out the next Austtrian embassy i.e. in Germany or France, and apply for a visa there (family reunification), instead of returning to Ecuador to apply from there. The advisor told us that this is possible ... I hesitate to give you the same advice as I don't know whether Colombian embassies in i.e. France could issue your wife the necessary visa once her tourist visa expired in Spain. You know what I mean? The best thing is to consult a lawyer about this, or someone who really knows 100% about this. If I were you I'd seek out an institution for legal help for foreigners and explain them your case ... The website that I mentioned also has lawyers which you could ask. I didn't do this yet, but am thinking about asking them as well (but we need to pay)
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    Alice

    Thanks for the reply and the useful information. Since I last wrote I have spoken with my lawyer. Now I do not know if this is legal, but he has told me that once I have my Spanish residents card (in about 1 month) my wife should travel to Spain on a tourist visa. Once she is here he has said he can take our marriage certificate and my rsidents card to the local police station, where it will be stamped and she will automatically be able to stay for whatever time period she wants. I think this only applies to her living in the city where I am now, but it is better than nothing and give us time to sort out a more permanent solution.

    Also I have read that in Spain if you can prove that someone has lived with you for a year (legally or ilegally) they can automatically claim the right to a residents card, whether this is true or not I am unsure.

    Anyway I will keep you posted and will take a look at the website you suggested.

    I really think the whole current visa/residents situation is a joke and I wish you and your husband a great deal of luck. Remember do not give up!!

    Bye

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    Ben, this is good to know! Also of great interest to us :)
    Glad that things are working out bit by bit, I'll keep my thumbs crossed for you !
    Let us know how things are going.
    Ciao :wave:
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    Ben,
    good news. it will take time, but good luck with the whole process!

    by the way, where in spain are you?
    I'm in Malaga province.

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    Hiya All

    Thanks for the words of support from everyone. In answer to you question Michael I live in Fuegirola, you know it?? Anyway Alice I wish you lots of luck and if I find out anymore useful information I will let you know. Please keep me informed if you discover any interesting news.

    Bye

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    Ben,
    I live about half an hour north of Malaga in the mountains... beautiful, lovely and quiet.

    Fuengirola, I know it very well, as my lawyer, notaria, gestoria, hairstylist, insurance company etc are based there. I go there quite often but never in the summer time, as the whole costa turns very ugly (and the traffic jam!).

    staying in spain is one thing, but going legal is another thing.
    Although preparing every bit of paperwork was tiring, I thought the whole application process (regroupa familia and residencia) went rather quickly and smoothly, again, once all the paperwork was in place.

    I've received my visa in two hours at the Spanish Embassy (handed it in in the morning, and got the stamp in the afternoon the same day).
    Residencia about one month.

    For residencia, I went to the same place you went, Malaga police station. As a non-EU (even married to an EU citizen), the officials at that police station were particularly picky on having Regroupa Familia visa (from the country of resident), every stamped page on my passport copied, having NIE, Ayuntamiento registration, having a house deed (escritura) or house rental contract, money in the bank (particularly because I applied as non-activo, and didn't have a job lined up at the time), private insurance, my wife's passport and residencia, and of course, marriage certificate.

    (However, there were other things they needed like medical certificate)

    My Brit wife and I married in Singapore (where we were living and working), however, Singapore has not signed the Hague Convention (I think that's what it's called), thus the Spanish government didn't recognise my marriage certificate. The certificate had to be recognised by British Consulate (my wife's a Brit), which took about a week because it had to be faxed back to the Brit consulate in Singapore for their recognition.

    Check out your marriage certificate for that reason as little things like that cause delay (particularly with a fact that Regroupa familia visa only valid for three months). It's about where it was issued, and whether it is recognised by the Spanish government.

    Also, at the police station, make sure that your wife queues on 'Communitario', not 'Extranjero General'. I've seen people queuing there for hours (particularly a long queue of people from North Africa), and found out that they had to requeue on the Communitario line, which went much faster. What bothered me there is that in order to pick up application forms, we had to queue for a long time.

    You know what I mean if you've been there, yes?

    good luck and let us know when u have more to contribute, as the requirements seem to change all the time.

    michael

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    What are the travel regulations for non-EU married to EU cit

    Hello :headscratch:

    Being married to an EU citizen is there not an easier way to travel within the Schegen,as going on holiday always seems such an uphill task and getting any last minute deals is totally OOQ!!!! :grrr: IS there any possibility that I can have a standard EU Visa issued for a fixed peroid of time.

    Thank you, :cool:
     
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    ...Schengen Visa

    Unfortunatly no. But instead you shouldn't have any problem in getting a Schengen visa working for several months and that allows the holder to move freely in all of these countries within the validity of the visa. You must ask a visa for multiple entries. It's usually valide for period of 1, 3 monthhs or more.

    In order to apply you need to go to the embassy of one of the Schengen country. More information here: <http://www.eurovisa.info/>

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    hello! It has been a great relief finding your website. I am a uk citizen who is planning on marrying my fiance in the coming spring, so we can start our life together for good. I have just moved to france and have not yet applied for residency, I didn't think I needed to because of eu laws.

    But, to facilitate my husband to be coming to live in France, what must I do and what is the process?

    Please please please some one helpppp!
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    Hi everyone.
    I would really appreciate some information/advice. I am non-EU, my boyfriend is a EU citizen (spanish) and we are planning to get married soon (next month)here in the UK.

    At the moment we are both working in the UK but my working permit is expiring at the end of January 2004 (quite soon!).

    We are planning the marriage before that date, and hopefully my contract will be extended so that by then I could ask for an extension of my visa/work permit...but if it doesn't work...What can we do to obtain a visa for me to stay together in the UK?.

    We have been living together for a year now. Would that be of any help?
    Any suggestions? We are scared because we do feel we are running out of time...

    Thanks a lot in advance!
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    You should search better on the forum...:rolleyes: The answer to your question is just at the beginning of this thread: ...because you are married to a EU spouse, you have full rights to residence and employment in the EU.

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    I was looking for some advice. I hold an EU passport, born in the UK, living in australia, my spouse is australian and we are looking into moving to Austria. I understand a EU spouse takes on the same rights as an Austrian local, so what do we need to migrate there? I also understand my spouse must enter on a dependant visa and then apply from there. Is this correct?

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    A national from Australia does not need a visa to enter Austria.
    Non visa nationals do not need to apply for a visa and may travel to Austria and apply to be admitted as a dependant of an EEA national at the port of entry. They will need to carry all their documentation in order to satisfy the immigration officer that they meet the requirements.

    In any case I strongly recommend that you contact the Embassy/Consulate of Austria in Australia in order to double checks with them the procedure.

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    Re: Alex

    HI Alex,

    I'm Austrian and just went through that whole immigration stuff with my husband here in Linz. Here's what I learned, I hope it holds true for you as well, but as I'm no expert I'd double-check with the Austrian Consulate just in case.

    You can enter without a visa and apply for a Residence permit at the nearest Bezirkshauptmannschaft (Magistrate; Fremdenpolizei - Immigration police) of where you live within the first three months. You need to show proof of the following:
    -that you have a regular income
    -a health insurance
    -a home (rental contract).
    -a Meldezettel: this is an Austrian peculiarity and very annoying but very very important!! Please be very conscientious about going to the nearest Gemeindeamt to register yourself, within the FIRST THREE DAYS of your arrival!! You will have to show this piece of paper almost everywhere no matter what you do (residence permits, drivers license, even when getting a library card and so on). Of course, once you decide to move to a new town you have to de-register yourself and register yourself again at the next Gemeindeamt etc. Everytime you want to do something at the BH (Bezirkshauptmannsschaft - Magistrate) you have to get a new print-out of the Meldezettel which shows your up-todate data. Excessively annoying.
    - Marriage certificate (translated with diplomatic certification)
    - Passport
    -Police Certificate from your town in Australia, if this is where you've been living the last 6 months(translated and dipl. certified. Though that depends on whom you talk to at the Magistrate, some insist on a diplomati certification, others not. Get it certified anyhow, it can't hurt).
    -Birth Certificates (translated, dipl. certif).

    And the same stuff all over again for your wife!

    If you are thoroughly confused now and have more questions feel free to contact me anytime, I'll be glad to help (kimalise@hotmail.com) !!

    Ciao
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