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Discussion in 'Spain' started by hely, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. hely

    hely New Member

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    Hi,

    I very much need your help !!!!!

    I am a spouse of the British citizen currently living with him in UK on
    " a limited leave to remain " visa . In 2 years I will apply for "indefinite leave to remain" and will be considered to be a permanent resident but so far I am a temporary one.

    My husband is going to move to Spain in a few months time and get residency and, of course, I want to join him there under the family regrouping laws.

    But I am concerned if I can apply for a residency visa to Spain FROM UK (not from Russia as it entails too many bureaucratic formalities).
    on my "limited leave to remain" visa ???

    It is written on the Spanish Embassy site: "If the applicant is not a permanent resident the application will have to be referred to the corresponding Spanish Embassy or Consulate and may be refused".

    I also read there that an applicant should be a permanent resident in UK to apply for family regrouping.( thus to have "indefinite leave to remain").

    Could you help me with the right information on this issue ...can I apply for Spanish residency FROM UK while I am on my "limited leave to remain" here ??? Did someone have similar situation ?

    Please share your experience with me. I would be very grateful to you for help.

    Elena
     
  2. rhea

    rhea Active Member

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    Limited leave to remain simply means you are resident in the UK for a given time period. As long as you are resident in the UK you can apply for the visa in the UK, that´s if you still have more than 3 months on your visa. If it´s validity is less than 3 months, you should apply for a renewal.

    Application for Spanish residency is done in Spain. What the Spanish Consulate will give you is a 3 month ´Family Reunification´ visa, which will grant you entry into Spain as the spouse of an EU citizen settled or settling there.
     
  3. hely

    hely New Member

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    Thank you very much for help,

    I didnt get about 3 months "Reunification" visa. My husband thought that I would be able to get a visa for one year.

    what should I do within 3 months time there ? can I apply for residency permit ?

    Terribly sorry for my poor knowledge of it :oops: but we get confused with the information.

    It is very good news that I can apply form UK :D

    Thank you a lot for your reply,

    Elena
     
  4. rhea

    rhea Active Member

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    Hi,

    First and foremost, because you are not ´communitario´ - not from the EU, there are more conditions for uptaining residency. The whole process starts with the Spanish consulate in London. When you go for the interview, you need to:

    1. Take photocopies of both your entire passport, leaving out only blank pages. You need to do the same for your husband´s.
    2. Your husband´s passport; if he can can I would advise that he go with you
    3. Proof that he as the EU citizen has been supporting you, I think bank statements from a joint account over the a one year period should do the trick
    4. Original marriage certificate plus a photocopy. if document is not in English, you´ll have to translate using an official translator. you can get a list from the Consulate.
    5. 4 filled forms and 4 passport photos

    I trust everything to go smoothly. When your visa is approved and you go back to collect it, make sure you ask them to return a stamped form to you. You may need it when you apply for residency here.

    PART II

    When you get to Spain you need to go to the nearest ´Oficina de Extrangeros´, that´s where you´ll apply for residency. In my opinion using the services of a ´gestor´is better, as they know the process. You can find´Gestorias all over, so shouldn´t be difficult to find one. They charge between 180 to 300€. When apply for residency in Spain, you need to present:

    1. A completed form with a passport photo
    2. You husband´s residency card, if he doesn´t have one yet, then his passport, N.I.E and a census certificate from his Local council in the UK should be ok. (N.I.E is to Spain what the N.I is to the UK)
    3. Your passport
    4. Marriage certificate - you need to have an up to date one. It should not be more than 3 months old.
    5. Medical Certificate - you can get that in Spain
    6. A police report covering the past 5 years
    7. A document from your husband´s local council in Spain stating your address. You both need to get this.

    NOTE: All documents (passports not included) have to be no more than 3 months old. There is a long waiting period for an appointment, so you have to know how to get your documents up to date.

    You can get the form for a UK police report from www.met.police.uk/dataprotection or call 020 7161 3500. The whole process usually takes about 40 days, so apply well in advance of the interview date for your residency.

    All documents must be translated to Spanish by an official translator. They are not hard to find in Spain.

    Hope this helps, ¡Suerte!
     
  5. hely

    hely New Member

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    Hi rhea,

    I so much appreciate your help, all information you gave me is extremely informative.

    I think I need your help and advice again. We were told by the Spanish lawyer that my husband needs to be a resident in Spain for at least a year to be eligible to apply for family regrouping visa and so this type of visa is out of the question for me now.

    The thing is that my husband is not a resident yet and never lived in Spain. We were planning to move there at the same time. I cannot stay in UK for a year and he cant live in Spain for a year without me !!!!!

    The whole thing was to do it together at the same time.

    Do you know if this is correct information ? that he should live in Spain for a year so that I could apply afterwards ?

    This is what the lawyer suggested:

    "What I suggest is that she applies for a tourist visa from the UK to go to Spain. Then once she is here, she cannot work but she is allowed to remain here. After one year of residing here with you, she can apply for the EU residence card after which she can indeed work here"

    We are waiting for his next reply.

    So far we dont understand how I can remain in Spain on a tourist visa and what he meant. The visa finally expires after 3 months and I should leave the country. Is there any legal status I can get if remain in Spain and go on a tourist visa??

    Did you hear anything of it ???


    We are really getting more and more confused. :rolleyes:

    Please give me some advice about this !!!


    Elena
     
  6. rhea

    rhea Active Member

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    Hi Hely,

    To be honest with you, I do not know where your lawyer got his information from, nevertheless, I would consider what he has said. The reason for this is that all EU countries seem to have their own interpretations of the EU regulations on freedom of movement of EU citizens and their families.

    Having said that, I do not think what the lawyer said is true. The reason for this is that the clause the lawyer refers to is not defined. What the Spanish consulate says is that the EU national should have financially maintained the dependant relative for up to one year prior to the application. It does not say in Spain.

    The Spanish Consulate is thorough, so when you send your application and they cannot process it, they will let you know the reason. However as things stand, I do not see a reason why they should refuse you a family visa.

    If I were you, I would apply anyway inspite of what the lawyer says.

    Also on the Spanish consulate website, one of requirements is the presentation of the passport of the European national moving or living in Spain and photocopy of the pages with the relevant information.

    It says moving or living in Spain. I think that answers your question
     
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