I actually faxed in the application for the PESEL. They emailed me a few days later to tell me that it was granted, and when I showed up at the...

DC won't let you do both at the same time. I just went through this a few months ago for my younger son, and I had to get the PESEL first.

Your parent's marriage certificate is secondary. I doubt they want to see the marriage certificate for your father is he is divorced from your...

Have you read this? http://forums.immigration.com/showthrea ... -ancestors

This is going to be your biggest challenge, because once you get proof that he is your father, the rest is a a slam dunk case. Ask the consulate...

It sounds like you have an extremely great chance of qualifying, if you can get some documents that link him to you. Is he listed on your birth...

By the way here is the template for my power of attorney. I am sure the consulate will have their own of you take that route. I tried to keep...

Since Ewa was not born in Poland, the application will need to be submitted to the Warsaw office. If she was born there, then it would need to be...

Yes you will need to send everything, with Apostilles, and translations. I recommend you send the originals to the relative as well. The office...

http://forums.immigration.com/showthrea ... highlight=

vailmij, I would recommend that one of your friends, or family members in Poland start the process for Eva there before you leave. You can give...

The consulate told me that they would give me the number when I come to apply for a passport. When we visited the consulate to apply for my...

You can do it directly through the Polish consulate. It takes about a month as well.

I think that your great-grandfather's exit date and naturalization date is more important than your grandmother's. In your case, your...

Interesting factoid.... Children under 5 will only get a passport valid for 1 year, however, if they have never been issued a Polish Passport,...

I'll drink to that! :evil:

If Charsky is holding your originals hostage, you could get new originals from the source (Australia?) if you don't want to wait for Charsky to...

By the way, my son's PESEL number was issued in 10 days.

My personal experience with mis-matched names is when I applied for a Canadian passport, they gave it to me, after A LOT of convincing. They...

You should have included your legal name change when you applied for your birth certificate. The Polish birth certificate would have been issued...

Its seems all the consulates use the same forms. (wnioski)

A photocopy (ie not original, not notarized) of the Polish birth certificate is sufficient for the PESEL application. The PESEL should come...

To apply for a PESEL, all you need is your Polish Registration of Birth, very similar to a Polish birth certificate. That's it, nothing, else, oh...

I just filled this out for my son, ask me anything! If you never had a PESEL number leave line 1 blank, and cross it out. By the way in...

I have found that dealing with Polish government administration services, their instructions are often vague. They like to employ the "you try,...

gjene, Here is the link to the step-by-step as you requested. http://forums.immigration.com/showthrea ... highlight= Its not simple to...

Thanks for the compliment!

Your Polish consulate is in New York. NEW YORK: Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio,...

If your legal name is Paui, then it will be Paul on the translations, and the Polish birth certificate, and eventually the passport as well....

Does anyone know if the current law permits someone to confirm thier citizenship based on adopted Polish citizen parents?

oz1, Congrats! Great to hear another success story!!

Apostilles are only needed if the original document is signed by a notary or the government office that issued it. The purpose of the...

Re: Update Seems like a common theme among consulates. Man, If I could walk over to my consulate, I would have marched over the first week,...

Any sort of work in the US requires you to have a work visa (H1b, L1b, L1a, TN, O, etc). A B2 Tourist Visa does not grant you tha ability to work...

I've used Fedex, but its about $95. USPS is cheaper at about $84, but they will only track up to the US border. UPS and DHL are around $120.

Re: Polish grandfather Its sounds like you've solved it!

Re: POLAND: Grandfather's birth certificate-- ? Does he have a Polish passport (current or expired)?

ok, ok. Maybe I got a little tangled in the double/triple(?) negative... :lol: The translation is fine. The point is if you were to take this...

You misquoted me. I am saying I do not doubt that the translation is incorrect. Therefor I am saying, that I am quite confident that the...

I get it. I don't doubt the translation is incorrect. The point is that we are extrapolating from the translation, rather than the original. I...

you guys are treading on shaky ground here.... You are re-interpreting a law has already been interpreted once for the purpose of translation....

Interesting twist. This would open the door for many people.

So was your grandfather an active member of the Poish army when he got naturalized as a Canadian? This sounds like a difficult thing to do. He...

You can use the QUOTE button visible at the top right corner of every post.

The Polish authorities will, by default, deny your request because your ancestor naturalized in a foreign country prior to 1951. They will not...

What year did your grandfather get naturalized in Canada?

Thanks, that sounds like it reflects what I meant to say.

These are great stats. But facts are different that puplic perception. All you need is a few politicians to convince the public that they are...

Canada recently tightened up thier citizenship laws in a similar way. If the Canadian parent was born aboad, then the children from that parent...

I agree, hurry up. I have already heard from friends in Poland that discussions have been brewing to include laws that require a language and...

Here is the decision you need to weigh. Is it worth 700Euro for you to do the research on you own? Do you have time for this? Do you know where to...

Re: Loss of Polish Citizenship What of one were to commit treason?

That is very true. They don't seem to adhere to any standards.

Post EU.

I had my documents translated and notarized by a US Public attorney / Certified Polish Translator. Then I got an apostille for these documents,...

Can they provide a guess or at least a ballpark figure of how much all of this apealling will cost?

You answered your own question....You can be a permanent resident in only 1 place and a temporary resident in mulitple other places at any...

Polish law does leave a lot to interpretation (I have read the Polish version of a few of them, and the simple fact that they have run-on...

I can only imagine what he charges IN ADDITION to actually work on your case.

Actually the law mention nothing about grand parents and great grandparents, this is just an extrapolation of the law as explained by a consulate....

Yup. Sounds just like my case. Maybe if its not coming from a consulate, they don't give 2 farts about it? I think you will have a result next...

That is irrelevant in this case.

The admin only recently put it into the UK forum when they "reorganized" the forum about a month ago. Regardless, Going by the length of Polish...

Nice link! Don't forget Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Belgium

I searched through this very informative Polish Citizenship thread, and there are a few lawyer's websites mentioned throughout, so I figured I...

You may have discovered a patern, Canada is 4 weeks. It seems 2nd world countries take longer and Poland is still on the edge of the 2nd world....

India is 8 months or so. Russia takes quite long as well, or so I've heard.

When dealing with ANY foreign country via a consulate, there is always a level of inconsistency in the timeframe with which you can expect a...

Re: Polish Passport You can check with the consulate, but when I went last year, it was 4 months for my wife, and 6 months for me.

That's a great link!

Re: Citizenship questiosn for pre-1918 ancestors Slim to none. You have the following working against you: 1) Your last ancestor to leave...

One of my notifications went to the address in Poland. The others were never sent out. My friend had to physcially go inquire about it....

In case anyone is reading this and gets confused with the reference of the laws, here is summary of the law which was mentioned: Special...

It was 7 months for me.

when you apply for the passport at the consulate, you will also apply for the PESEL number a the same time with an additional application.

Wow the moderator sure buried this thread in the "UK Immigration" section.

You are eligible. You can read this first: http://www.easyexpat.com/forums/sutra_33969.htm#33969 If you need more info then ask here on the...

Re: Any hope? I beleive the Polish law prior to approx. 1956 says that if the person received a foreign citizenship, then they will have lost...

Thanks! I'll be around, I think I'm addicted now.

And here is the first section: http://www.easyexpat.com/forums/ftopic_4563.htm

Another update on my case: My son and I both got our passports in the mail yesterday! So the whole process took almost 2 years. - Applied...

Welcome to the forum! Finally! A lawyer that can offer some insight for all of us! As you may notice, we've been trying to piece together this...

Congrats! That is a great success story!

alyhoud, I hope yours comes through soon. My approved application for Confirmation of Polish Citizenship sat on thier desk for over 6 months...

Another update on my case. My wife received her Polish passport back in March. So she is done! Me and my son are still waiting for our...

I suspect that if you show up in person, since you are not a resident of Poland, then they will tell you to contact your local Polish consulate.

It is specific to the wojewodstwo where your grandparents last lived in Poland. Someone local to that wojewodstwo would know how to find thier USC.

I've heard this mentioned on the Polish News on the Polish satelite stations a few times. Its been a topic of discussion, but they've never passed...

Thanks! That was me. I copied my original post from this forum that I can no longer edit because the admins locked it. At least the immigration...

An update on my case: I submitted my passport application at the consulate in early October. Last week, they finally cashed my check 3 months...

Re: E.U./Polish Citizenship Personally I like to relate to the movie National Treasure. The moral in that movie is that every time you find a...

Re: E.U./Polish Citizenship Kaput, I'm sure this historian would be a great help for people in Australia looking to claim Polish citizenship....

That tool does not allow people to easily point to a specific post witin a thread, nor does it allow a member to share thier bookmarks with other...

Have you read the post I put together a while back? Here is the link to the instructions I put together:...

Re: accepted documents In my opinion, and from what I've gathered through numerous conversations with the consulate is, that is not enough...

I applied for my PESEL number and my passport at the same time. I assume that they handle the 2 step process internally, and the sum total is...

I assume your ancestors are not Polish ancestors. Marriage in and of itself does not qualify you for citizenship. You would have to apply for...

West, Would you be able to locate the immigration records that they used when they arrived in Canada? Its possible those docs state that they...

West, Keep in mind that a birth record in and of itself does not explicitely prove Polish citizenship. Which country does your mother live in?...

ANY document that explicitely states that the person was a Polish citizen will be MUCH more helpful to your case, than no document at all....

I am so happy to hear that the steps included here were helpful....and successful!

Which country issued these documents originally? If they were issued by the United States, then you would need to get an apostille from the US...

Stop contacting your consulat.e They either have not clue how to help you, or they have no desire to help you. Either way, they aren't helping....

I would assume that the consulate did not have the ONLY copy. Try contacting the office in Warsaw to determine which department would have a copy...

My unprofessional advice: It sounds like you have a passport that was issued by a consulate, also known as a consular passport. They used to do...

Re: great grandparent I've read that post as well, although I have not read anything specific to great grandparents in the laws that I've read so...

According to the consulate in DC, it _might_ be enough to prove citizenship, depending on how long ago it expired. There is no clear definition on...

An update on my case: We submitted our passport applications last week. We had to do this in person, even my son had to be there. Don't bother...

Re: Citizenship obligations No No

By the way it waqsn't until 8 months went by that they notified me, although processing only took 2 weeks.

Re: Loding directly in Warsaw Yes they will. I have done it successfully this way. Your cousin may need to ask to speak to a supervisor. Its...

I didn't. My notary / translator is in Florida. But I had to get a few Canadian documents legalized at the consulate in Montreal, and I asked them...

No. Just look into the previous thread. I provided a template for the power of attorney. You can have an notary sign it for you, to make it official.

Go to Poland as a Canadian citizen, and visit your aunt ASAP before she passes. When you are in Poland you should follow my instructions (in...

Poland does not recognize foreign citizenships, but they also do not require that you "renounce" your foreign citizneship either. Will Turkish...

oops the "quote" tags overlapped a bit making it look like you said it. I fixed my post.

Wow, that's shallow!

CONTINUATION OF THE ORIGINAL POLISH CITIZENSHIP THREAD FOUND HERE: http://www.easyexpat.com/forums/ftopic_4563.htm I've had the same...

Double checking the information that the consulate gave you by confirming with another consulate is a great piece of advice. It could potentially...

d7, The reason it will take 2 years is because you need to "apply" for citizenship, not just obtain "proof" of your citizenship. Had your...

It seems like he has a good chance, since his father's citizenship was revoked by the governement, and not by the father himself. It is not clear...

I can see how that can happen if someone was stripped of their citizenship, but how do they look at this if you personally explicitly renounced...

Re: My situation Which city/country is your consulate in? I would think all records reside in Warsaw anyways. Its strange that the consulate...

Another update on my case: This weekend my contact from Poland flew in for a visit and gave me my "Potwierdzenie Obywatelstwa" in person. We...

Re: Proof of Citizenship Its almost laughable how drastically they've altered the laws in the past few years. When you applied, this indeed...

It sounds like you would have to APPLY for citizenship, and as you mentioned, I think there is a residency requirement for that, so you couldn't...

Re: Proof of Citizenship bd, Did you only file for confirmation of citizenship, or did you also apply to register your birth? Twenty months...

You hit the nail on the head with your analogy.

Yes a relative or a very good friend (with lots of gusto) armed with a notarized power of attorney going for you (not with you) would be much...

Re: Proof of Citizenship My opinion: Have you every tried to speed up a snail that is cleaning the inside of a fish tank? When I was 6 years...

I, of course, don't know the details of thier process, I would think a good lawyer would though. My guess is that they somehow tap into some kind...

The supervisor at the office in Warsaw will probably send your person away if they are not a resident of Poland, and tell them that you, the...

AFAIK... I read somewhere that they changed the laws very recently (around 2005 or so), and you only need to do military service when you are of...

This type of situation is always a topic of contention, so don't quote me on this one, but...If you read the laws of those times, technically,...

No, they will not translate your name, unless you explicitely file for a legal name change, which is a whole different process.

Any way you skin it, its a lot of money. I think its very fair that you only pay 675 upfront, and the rest is only paid if you get Polish...

According to this law, it is very clear: 1) Were you older than 3 months old when your parent filed to renounce your Polish citizenship? a) If...

This is probably one of the first things they check during the application. If he had renounced his Polish citizenship during, for example,...

If you don't make a translation, then the clerks in Warsaw will take thier best guess, based in thier knowledge of English, and may make...

Here is the form: http://www.bip.warszawa.pl/dokumenty/wn ... ilnego.pdf I'm not sure, but I think this is the address to go to: 00-281...

That is great news! Glad to see another person who has navigated this process successfully. It is NOT straightforward to say the least, and...

alyehoud, Could you post thier contact info and / or website? (if they have one)

I stand corrected...It was speculationon on my part that the 2 were related.

The Polish authorities sent a request to the USCIS to search my USCIS records during my application. I don't see why they wouldn't search...

The other option, if you don't want to contact USCIS yourself, is not to mention the US citizenship thing in the application when you give it to...

Here are the links provided by alphazip http://www.polishcitizenship.net/ http://staczek.com/en/seat.html http://www.icharsky.com/english.asp

If they are easy to get then sure, but I don't think it will make much of a difference.

Keep in mind that neither of these documents explicitely prove Polish citizenship, but they both are very good starting points. The reason an...

Re: Polish citizenship If time is of the essence, and you can't wait 18+ months to get it done, then have someone do it in Warsaw for you. You...

The consulate here told me it would take _at least_ 18 months, possibly more, if I process the case through the consulate. One of the main...

I used the same link to my Polish ancestor. My father and mother are Polish citizens. I was born in Canada, and they put my picture and my name...

An update on my case. My proof of Polish Citizenship was approved a week ago! So that stage only took 8 months doing it directly in Warsaw...

Start here, and post your Q: http://www.easyexpat.com/forums/ftopic_4563.htm Alphazip and I have provided a lot of useful information on...

AlphaZip, That is the clearest explanation I have seen yet! If your ancestor left Poland before 1920, they had Polish nationality, but NOT...

Re: Polish citizenship It sounds to me like you have enough documents. You don't mention if someone is going to Warsaw for you in person or if...

Re: Polish citizenship It seems that they are telling you that the documents for Goldy Racheli Borek are not in the archive, but rather you...

adamsson, I am so glad to hear that your father was successful the second time around by being a little more forceful. For anyone else that will...

An immigration or emmigration record or receipt might show his nationality as Polish. His national ID from Poland might work as well. I think in...

I agree with Alphazip. You need to get a paper showing Polish citizenship for your ancestor linking you back to Poland.

I agree with Alphazip. You need to get a paper showing Polish citizenship for your ancestor linking you back to Poland.

Alphazip, I have no need for a passport right away either, but I've noticed in recent years that Poland has been changing thier citizenship laws...

Have you tried asking the consulate if they can get a copy of his birth certificate? I know they do this, but I'm not sure if they will do this if...

Fropie, In 1918, Poland became a country. In 1920, Poland created thier first immigration and citizenship laws. The Statute on Polish...

Another Update: My son's case has been approved! It only took 2 weeks.

The NVC (National Visa Center) here in the US sent me a request to send them a copy of my Green Card. They needed it to reply to a request made by...

an update on my case: My son's application for Proof of Citizenship was submitted last week. The first clerk my contact spoke to at the Warsaw...

I tried to keep this as generic as possible. Use these variables to fill out your specifics in the document. VARIABLE1: Today's day verbose...

adamsson, Have your father try again. I seem to remember my contact telling me that he had to return a second time as well to get another clerk....

Yes Prefferably, but it depends more on the consulate. Ideally you shuold get an apostille from the same organization in the US that issues birth...

Here's an update for me too: I recently got a letter from the National Visa Center here in the USA. I have a green card, and they wanted proof...

Re: Polish/Canadian Dual Citizenship Since your granparent's left Poland prior to 1918, during which time that Poland belonged to other countries...

For Polish citizenship, read this thread: http://www.easyexpat.com/forums/ftopic_ ... dfdb87e2f6

Re: Pre-1918 rules and Charsky experiences. I think nymike83 was going to try using Charsky. He may have more insight. My inexperienced...

Another update: My contact in Poland informed me that my wife's proof of citizenship has arrived this week! It arrived by mail from the...

Re: Polish Citizenship It says you need a Polish Birth certificate to get a Polish passport right on the New York Polish Consulate's website:...

I have had no problems. The power of attorney I gave my friend in Poland has been used in numerous offices to prove they he has the right to...

Re: Situation Update nymike83, Will you take the lawyer, or go with the consulate?

adamsson, 1) If they NEVER married, you can still proceed with out it. My instructions assume they did marry, and if so, the marriage...

adamsson, My contact in Poland has all the copies. I will ask for a copy, but I won't have it for Monday. Maybe in a few week?

Strange that the embassy told you they can't do it for you. When I inquired at the embassy in Montreal, Canada they insisted that only the...

nymike83, I really think you should wait until Charsky emails you back, or try to find another attorney who can help you. Here is a quote from...

By the way, I just spoke to my contact from Poland again, and when he went to the office in Warsaw to submit my citizenship papers a few weeks...

Citizenship laws fall under the responsability of the Minister of Interior and Administration (Ministerstwo Spraw Wewnętrznych i Administracji)....

nymike83, Here is the act right from the Sejm: http://isip.sejm.gov.pl/servlet/Search? ... 0049Lj.pdf

As a sidebar....If your last name ends in SKI, for example, and you are female, the Polish authorities may conjugate your name in the feminine...

The left side going down: - Your first and last name - Your foreign address (in your case, your address in the US) - Your address in Poland, if...

My opinion is that without a document that shows your father's citizenship this would not have worked. It’s even amazing that it got through, but...

The other caveat is that it often requires that you enter the root word for many terms, so removing the conjugation can be tricky if your not...

Pawel, Keep one important factor in mind. Polish law dictates that even if you were born in Poland, you don't necessarily have Polish...

Re: Polish Passports I found my own answer. Every consulate has it posted on their websites now. You need to go IN PERSON to apply for a...

Re: Polish birth certificate The easiest way of course is to apply at the Urzad Stanu Cywilnego (USC) in Warsaw, but if that is not an option...

Polish Passports I heard there is a new law that requires one to go to the Polish consulate in person to get a passport. Supposedly they will no...

Thanks! Hopefully somebody finds it helpful.

Re: getting a polish passport Yes you do need to register your birth to get a passport. To get a Polish Passport you can apply directly in...

Well, I got my Polish birth certificate, and so did my son. Since a friend is handling this in Poland for me, it only took 3 weeks. Much faster...

http://www.icharsky.com/english.asp

This is a great thread. One small note...if you know someone in Poland who can do the legwork for you, you can write a power of attorney for them...