You fill it with your own information as you are a Polish citizen who has not yet been confirmed. The information regarding your Polish ancestors will also be included in all the birth certificates and other documents that you produce.

 

With the exception of adoption, you would have to have been born Polish to be successful in a confirmation application. In order to be Polish one of your parents has to be Polish. Your parent and you do not have to be born in the territory that is now the Republic of Poland to be Polish. Polish nationality is passed through blood line.

 

Re: should i go on my own or go with a lawyer?

Hi Lorak, that's good to hear. How long did the whole process take you?

 

Thats the bad part. the application was nearly a two year wait. (Sent in Aug 2006, returned with confirmation in July 2008- submitted by the Consulate in Sydney, not direct in Poland). Then the passport took another 6 months. They don't do things quickly but eventually is does happen.

 

For those who have received Polish documents, do they translate your foreign first and second name into Polish? Example Paul > Pawel
Do you have a choice to have it translated or not?
What are the advantages/disadvantages of doing so?

 

If your legal name is Paui, then it will be Paul on the translations, and the Polish birth certificate, and eventually the passport as well.

However, if your legal name is Pawel, then you need to decide if you want to use Pawel or Paweł (note the cross through the L), since the correct Polish spelling is the second one. You would need to fill out the appliction approriately. You could use the second one on the Polish applications, even though your foreign documents have the first one, because Poland recognizes these Polish characters.

 

I got my Citizenship in 3 months

Well I thought I should give you an update. Since starting to get the ball rolling when I wrote this post. I have received my Polish Citizenship confirmation in the mail on Tues 15th Oct 09. How quick was that! I did have my doudts at first because I was dealing with someone by email / IM correspondence. So since putting in my application and sent all my documents to Roman it took a whole 3 months. Roman service did cost me a one off fee of €1200. But for me it was well worth it. I am now applying for my passport.

 

Wow, that's amazing. You had all of your documents prepared already, I'm assuming?

I'm finally submitting my application this week, after collecting documents for a loooong (look at my "joined" date!) time. Wish me luck!

 

my case

I just started the process using my towns consulate.

My whole family is from Poland... The nearest "polish" is my father.

My grandparents lived in a town that was taken by the USSR in WWII (now its part of Ucraine)

My father was born in a territory that was once poland and was repatriated using the 1957 repatriation act - http://untreaty.un.org/unts/1_60000/8/21/00015038.pdf

Then he lived there for 3 years - emigrating to latin america in 1960.

I have his paszport and birth certificate from poland

He was naturalized in 1971

I also have both my grand parents passports.

What wories me is:

Article 4: a person is not considered a Polish citizen, even if on August 31, 1939, he or she would have Polish citizenship, but now live in a foreign country and regularly:
1) Following the changes in the borders of Poland, became a citizen of another state
2) has national Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Lithuanian, Latvian or Estonian.
3) has German nationality, (unless the spouse of such a person has Polish citizenship and resides in Poland).

- in fact in USSR they were considered of jewish nationality

- He has a 1960 passport.

- After leaving USSR he never went back



What do you guys think about my case?

Anyone with a similar history?

 

Re: my case

When you say he has a 1960s Passport do you mean of the USSR/Ukraine? If that is the case then that is exactly what that clause covers so it may be bad news. I think you might want to seek an expert legal opinion as I would assume that your application would be rejected because of that passport.

 

Re: my case

No, i meant his polish passport.

I got an answer from a polish embassy - i'll post right now...

DWWD

 

answer from polish embassy:

The answer to your final question answers all the above questions.
Polish passports are only issued to Polish citizens. As long as he did
not renounce his citizenship after that, then he is still a Polish
citizen.


email sent:
Cytowanie "********" <******@***************>:

> Hi,
>
>
> I would like to know more about my father's citizenship.
>
>
> My father was born in a part of Poland that was occupied by the USSR
> in WWII.
>
>
> In the USSR he was considered of Jewish Nationality.
>
>
> Is that a problem for the article 4 of the 1951 citizenship law?
>
>
> In 1957 he was repatriated from the USSR.
>
>
> And I have his Paszport (issued in 1959)
>
>
> He then went to latin america in 1961
>
>
> He was naturalized in 1971 (not giving up his polish citizenship)
>
>
> The only thing I don't understand about the citizenship law(s) is if
> he lost his citizenship while he was in USSR (Jewish nationality is
> not stated in the polish law) and even if he had lost it in 1952
> did he ragain his citizenship by being repatiated in 1957?
>
>
> Is a polish Passport only issued for people who hold polish
> citizenship (at that point in time)?
>
>
> Thanks!
>

>
>
>

 

Hello everyone,

New to the forum so in advance, I ask for your forgivness if I do anbything that offends anyone. With that being said, I have a few questions and I'm looking to the wise to help.

I have all my documents (originals) of my grandparents who were born in Poland in 1912 and 1920. My mother was born in Austria but was not an Austrian citizen. Everyone came ot the US after WWII and my mother was Naturalized in 1965. No one has ever given up their Polish citizenship.

My question is on attorneys and the cost associated with the process. I've been talking with an attorny by the name of Maria Mirek. She has been very receptive and always responds to my emails. We finally got down to costs. She is advising that 2000 dollars for the first application and 400 dollars additional for each family member that wants to be a part of the confirmation process. Is this a fair amount? Has anyone used another attorney that they were very happy with and what did they charge?

I just want to do my due dilagence before I transfer 2400 dollars for my mother and myself to an attorney on the other side of the planet.

Thank you very much for any help you can send my way and I very much appreciate it. Have a great day!

Mike

 

Hi,

Can you answer a few questions...

- when were you born?

- when was your mother born?

- What documents do you have from your grand parents?

- where did they emigrate to?

dwwd

 

Hi dwwd,

Thanks for the lightning quick repsonse.

OK, here's some background

I was born in Detroit, MI in 1967

My grandfather was born in Poland in 1912, grandmother in 1920. Grandfather captured by Nazi's. He was an operative for the Home Army. In around 1945, they were in Linz, Austria where my mother was born. In 1951, my mother and Grandmother come to the US. I year or two later, my Grandfather follows. Neither my Grandfather/mother Naturalized in the US. My mother was Naturalized in 1965.

Documents I have:

Poswiadczenie Obywatelstwa of my Grandfather. (The attorney I've been talking to says this is a very important document.

Metryka Urodzenia of my Grandfather and his brother.

My mother's birth certificate (In German) 1946

University records of my Grandfather

Certificate from the Main Verification Commission for Poles Politically Persecuted by German National Socialists showing the dates and places my Grandfather was held by the Nazi's. 1948

Swiadectwo Slubu (Marriage certificate of my Grandfather/mother) dated 1947

 

Hi,

I'm used to computer forums... ;-)

Poswiadczenie Obywatelstwa is great. And it proves that your grandfather was a polish citizen.

Then your mother enherited his citizenship.

but, did she became a german citizen in 1946? I ask that because the 1952 citizenship act (article 4) would take her citizenship away if she did.

If you had your mother's Paszport you could use it directly... maybe it would be a faster process. (im assuming they came from poland to the us directly because of the polish marriage certificate from 47)

naturalization in 65 is not a problem.

If she did not lose her citizenship, you are a polish citizen...

dwwd

 

Thank you for the info!!!

NO, she did not become a German citizen ever. She was mearly born there. She is listed as "stateless" on her entry documents to the United States. My family is fiercely Polish and no one would have ever renounced their citizenship.

Now, how about some suggestions for an attorney. I've written Luke Piotrowski to see what he would charge. I just think that 2000 dollars is a bit steep for the legal work involved. I may be wrong and if I am, please let me know. Thank you so much!

No passports availiable. I just have my grandfather's/mother's visa paperwork for the United States.

Just to make clear, it wasn't Luke Piotroski that stated it would cost 2000 dollars to get this done, it was another attorney. He hasn't responded to my request yet.

 

I don't think you would have a problem confirming your citizenship.

I started my confirmation using my local consulate. It may take more time, but its almost free. And you get to show your documents to the consul and talk about your case with him.

dwwd

 

Would you happen to know the closest consulate to Columbus, OH? I actually would like to do it myself as I find this very interesting and it would mean alot more to me if I put the "work" in myself. Again, thank you

 

Your Polish consulate is in New York.

NEW YORK:
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont

LOS ANGELES:
Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wyoming

CHICAGO:
Arkansas, Illinois, Indian, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin

WASHINGTON, DC:
Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Maryland