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✎ EN Visa free travel to the UK for family members of EU citizens

Temat na forum 'Immigration UK' rozpoczęty przez Prawo, Sierpień 27, 2007.

  1. Prawo

    Prawo Active Member

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    Under directive 2004/38/EC third country nationals living with an EU national have to get a residence card according to art. 10 par. 1.

    According to art. 5 par. 2 since 30 April 2006 this card allows them to travel without a visa to other member states, a.o. the UK and Ireland.

    For example the Turkish husband, living with his Polish wife in The Netherlands can board a plane and travel visa free to the UK.
    So can the Iranian parents, living with their Dutch daughter in Sweden.

    Does anyone have any experience with this?
     
  2. sebhoff

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    Re: Visa free travel to the UK for family members of EU citi

    I think you are basically right, but the paragraph you quote isn't the decisive one. Par. 2 allows the UK to demand that family members who are visa-nationals apply for a visa first. The difference is that the UK is not allowed to charge for issuing the visa and it has to be done quickly.
    The more interesting passage, I think, is Article 5/par. 4, which is about what should happen if a visa-national attempts to enter any member state country without a visa. In this case, the UK immigration authorities should give them every possible opportunity to obtain such a visa "or to corroborate or prove by any other means that they are covered by the right of free movement and residence".
    I don't know of anybody who has tried this, but as long as that person can prove that s/he is indeed an immediate family member, they would have to be let in. However, I would suspect that it is up to the immigration authorities to decide whether they have been given enough evidence for this - and it would not surprise me in the least if that was going to be a problem with the average British immigration officer.
    It *would* be worth a try, though.

    There's another important passage later on - Article 25, par. 1, which says that "possession of a residence card" or any other residence document "may under no circumstances be made a precondition for the exercise of a right or the completion of an administrative formality, as entitlement to rights may be attested by any other means of proof".
     
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    Re: Visa free travel to the UK for family members of EU citi

    By the way - could somebody please try to do all of this without a passport?! ;-)

    Here's something I just found:

    http://www.hablamosdeeuropa.es/NR/r...420A-A603-7F555AAA38EF/12341/MEMO06179_EN.pdf

    I'm sure any British immigration officer will be very happy to comply! ;-)
     
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    Re: Visa free travel to the UK for family members of EU citi

    This refers to first entry into a member state.
    What I point out is written in the second sentence of par. 2 and concerns third country nationals already having a valid residence card as a family member.

    See also the case of the Italian student and his Russian wife, in the document you mentioned.
     
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