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✎ EN British Citizen Non EU spouse and rules.

Temat na forum 'Immigration UK' rozpoczęty przez oakes, Marzec 17, 2006.

  1. oakes

    oakes New Member

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    Dear People,

    Would be grateful if I can get specific information regarding settling in the EU with my spouse who is British,getting a Settlement visa for England is notoriously difficult so we elected to relocate within Europe,I am Nigerian,I have recently learnt that its better to simply state one wants a tourist visa.

    My wife called one of the EU embassies here asking what the requirements are and the gentleman said she should travel down to Nigeria,bring legalized wedding certificate and visa fees of 5500,she asked specifically if there would be anything else and was told no,also emailed and the staff said the same thing,she came down and we went and it was a comedy of sorts,we paid and got the money returned after a very confusing interview,the lady questioning asked why I wouldnt let my sick and pregnant wife go unaccompanied to a totally new territory, settle down and then join her,and I said doctors said due to her severe health complications of late, I should be with her and I even had letters to that effect,my wife was never interviewed,the letters were not asked for,I was not asked to produce any other documents,my marriage was not in doubt,I was told eventually the purpose of my stay was UNCLEAR.


    My question is what exactly is a Non EU spouse of a EU citizen supposed to present as documentary evidence?,and ASAP because my wifes health has gotten more precarious and Ireland would have been ideal but it takes too long ,so perhaps Netherlands should be the port of call considering its proximity to the U.K.

    Another question is would we have to incur the cost of her flying down again rather than presenting her passport certified and is that necessary since we already have a legalized marriage certificate asserting her being a BRIT and the marriage having been investigated as genuine?

    P.S:What was the rationale of asking my wife to travel down if she was not to be interviewed and the documents she was asked to bring was not enough apparently and they refused to ask for appropriate documents,just shrouded the entire process in mystery.
     
  2. brownbonno

    brownbonno Active Member

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    Hi,
    Its unfortunate that you and your wife went through this failing mission.
    To be specific,you didn't mention the embassy in question and where was your marriage certificate issued.Requesting a Tourist Visa when both of you live in different countries-Nigeria and UK,may raise some suspicion that the visa request is to beat the normal settlement procedure.
    The best option is to request a visa from a country where your wife is settled/leave.
     
  3. oakes

    oakes New Member

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    Been there done that.

    Hi,

    Thanks for your advice but you might notice that I asked for the specific documents to be presented,we would be glad to actually follow set rules if we could be sure the rules wouldnt be changed midway,there are some embassies that seem to apply the rules scrupulously(BLASTED LUCK i CANT FIND THEM), and most seem to play it by ear,the marriage and the certificate was verified by my spouses Embassy with a document to that effect,took them 3 weeks but they declared it genuine which is easy because we have evidence of a subsisting 7 year relationship,photos,accounts e.t.c.

    She has decided to settle like you suggested but there are pressing considerations why I must join her ,health being the most predominant,my spouse was in hospital within minutes of visiting the embassy in Nigeria as requested and leaving it also had to be rushed to hospital,with medical evidence to support this and a clear coherent explanation as to why I must accompany her,I was all but told that she should cope with it on her own even after doctors had clearly stated their fears for her health,Yes,we would be happy to apply the rules,if we could pin down what the rules are.I will PM you the "honorable"embassy in question.Thank you.
     
  4. Triple H

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    Interpretation by the visa people in the EU embassies is what counts.

    One embassy may require just marriage certificate,medical insurance for non EU and passports. ( This is the basic rule).

    Another one may ask for financial statements and all sorts of other things,near enough what is required for a proper settlement visa.
    :idea:
     
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    EU citizens have the right to enter, reside and remain in the territory of any other Member State for a period of up to three months simply by presenting a valid passport or national identity card: no other formality is required. If they intend to remain for a period exceeding three months, a residence permit must be obtained. The conditions for granting a residence permit depend on the status of the citizen (employed or self-employed person, student, retired or inactive person).

    Any EU citizen can take up an economic activity in another Member State either as an employed or self-employed person. In this case, he/she will be issued a residence permit by simply presenting an identity document (passport or ID) and proof of employment or self-employment.

    If a citizen wants to reside in another Member State without exercising any activity or to study, he/she can do so provided he/she can prove (and in the case of students, declare) that he/she has sufficient financial resources not to become a burden for the host Member State's social assistance system and that he/she is covered by a sickness insurance policy. He/she must also prove that he/she has sufficient financial resources and sickness insurance for each member of his/her family who is entitled to reside with him/her.

    Family members, irrespective of their nationality, have the right to accompany and establish themselves with a EU citizen who is residing in the territory of another Member State. Family members who can enjoy rights under Community law include the spouse, minor (under 21) or dependent children, and dependent ascendants, though in the case of students only the spouse and dependent children enjoy this right. If the family members are not EU citizens, they may be required to hold an entry visa by the Member State where they intend accompany the EU citizen. They shall be granted this visa free of charge and with all facilities by that Member State.
     
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    I would agree with this!
     
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    I am glad you guys are like they "ought to ask"or "should ask for"e.t.c,their suspicions if any, would be baseless because we actually have enough documentary evidence, 7 years worth as a matter of fact,I concur with what you said to the Colombian/Irish couple about different people having different experiences,what happens is that some embassies pointedly ignore what you have,and give you misleading information about what to do and when to do it,its a matter of luck not a matter of law,as in meeting someone who is having a good day,thanks so much for your advice one and all,this forum really makes one heck of a lot of diffrence.
     
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    AS WELL AS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES

    I would add ;)
     
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